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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: saddle mounted drinks thingy - whats best? Reply with quote

Seeing as I've now got an aero frame it seems a bit dense to then chuck a couple of bottle cages on it. I know xlab make one, but are there any others that are decent enough (and cheaper!) Am planning to run it with a couple of spesh cages so hopefully they'll be secure enough...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have had the profile solution and the xwing.

the prifile one did not last a race (fell of at 60k and again at 170 at roth) as the nut kept coming undone, ntil it was lost in race!

xwing awesome. using the old profile bottleholders, which grip really well, if not a little heavy, BUT SO IS MY GUT!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Minoura SBH-300 & it's cheap & served me well for a couple of years.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spooky. I was just sat here googling the same thing for that same reason. X-Lab wing thingy is extortionate Shocked

Minoura dooda is on wiggle and looks sensible (less sexy looking but sensible). Also looks like there would still be room for a mini saddle bag.

Do you ever ave any probs with bottles flying out when you go over bumps? Are some cages better than others for that ?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chunks wrote:
Spooky. I was just sat here googling the same thing for that same reason. X-Lab wing thingy is extortionate Shocked

Minoura dooda is on wiggle and looks sensible (less sexy looking but sensible). Also looks like there would still be room for a mini saddle bag.

Do you ever ave any probs with bottles flying out when you go over bumps? Are some cages better than others for that ?


I used the Minoura to hold a tool bottle & a drinks bottle, I also attached a wee Lezyne pump & velcroed a spare tyre to the set-up.

I was always a bit wary of bottles ejecting so I held the tool bottle down with a big rubber band, but I think I only ever had to retrieve one drinks bottle on a training ride. The cages I use are Profile Kages which are not particularly grippy.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont use 'em, a bottle on the down and seat tube and then in between my arms on the aerobars - sorted and more aero.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the profile one is crap. there's a lot of vibration/movement back there, so the joint wears down and then it just flaps around. I tried glueing it to a permanent position, and in the end gave up on it.
The minoura one is cheaper, works well, but looks cheap. Because of the movement you will have to clamp it tight to the rails, and this will inevitably grind them down slightly.
The xlab cage is far better, but costs a huge amount more. Their Gorilla cages are good.

If it's just one bottle, the specialised aero bottle is good, you see these a lot on TT bikes.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iron snorks wrote:
I dont use 'em, a bottle on the down and seat tube and then in between my arms on the aerobars - sorted and more aero.


Err, no it isn't.

Here's the order or most to least aero for bottle placement, according to Cervelo at any rate:

1. betwen the arms torpedo bottle
2. behind your ass bottle (as long as it is a single bottle out of the wind, VERY close to your saddle/ass and NOT 2 bottles wide like a lot of people do. Chris Lieto does it well)
3. down tube bottle (ideally aero shaped)
4. Seat tube bottle (ideally aero shaped)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use this as a rear solution, perfect as it takes a couple of screw in co2 canisters & a spare tub cable tied between the cages.

Works well for me with aero bottle between the bars just has water & downtube bottle full of gels.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cenzo wrote:
I use this as a rear solution, perfect as it takes a couple of screw in co2 canisters & a spare tub cable tied between the cages.

Works well for me with aero bottle between the bars just has water & downtube bottle full of gels.

That looks similar to the one being sold in the classifieds here.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any one tried the mini wing from xlab
http://www.xlab-usa.com/mini-wing.html
comes in at about 35 with small bag and 2 cages
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben16v wrote:
any one tried the mini wing from xlab
http://www.xlab-usa.com/mini-wing.html
comes in at about 35 with small bag and 2 cages


I was looking at that. Much cheaper option. Anyone tried it?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnny senna wrote:
2. behind your ass bottle (as long as it is a single bottle out of the wind, VERY close to your saddle/ass and NOT 2 bottles wide like a lot of people do. Chris Lieto does it well)
Who does the single bottle seat mounts?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnny senna wrote:
iron snorks wrote:
I dont use 'em, a bottle on the down and seat tube and then in between my arms on the aerobars - sorted and more aero.


Err, no it isn't.

Here's the order or most to least aero for bottle placement, according to Cervelo at any rate:

1. betwen the arms torpedo bottle
2. behind your ass bottle (as long as it is a single bottle out of the wind, VERY close to your saddle/ass and NOT 2 bottles wide like a lot of people do. Chris Lieto does it well)
3. down tube bottle (ideally aero shaped)
4. Seat tube bottle (ideally aero shaped)


Ok Mate no worries but I did get the tip of a certain ironman pro who won Hawaii last year, so I reckon if it's good enough for him it's good enough for me. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrWings wrote:
johnny senna wrote:
2. behind your ass bottle (as long as it is a single bottle out of the wind, VERY close to your saddle/ass and NOT 2 bottles wide like a lot of people do. Chris Lieto does it well)
Who does the single bottle seat mounts?


Sindballe and Armstrong do it even better...
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