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Veggieboy
Joined: 13 Jul 2007 Posts: 4453 Location: Land of The Rising Mojo
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Time2Tri wrote: | One that is comfortable and fits...
For a more sensible price range though with Di2 (need an excuse to get a TT bike as I like my old road bike), I have been looking at the Canyon and Team. Also waiting to see when Planet X and Boardman bring out the Di2 bikes..
On another point, not sure if I am a wimp or not, but because of the hills in the longer events, I am looking at compact gearing.. |
Only a "serious triathlete" would laugh at compact gearing
It is essential that you have the correct gearing for the way you cycle and the terrain you are covering
If that is a compact them so be it
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recipher
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 1706 Location: Cardrona
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:47 am Post subject: |
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I'm at the point now, where I'm looking for a few simple things from a bike:
* It *has* to look good (to my eye) - I like aesthetically pure bikes (which means I hate bikes covered in bottles and bento bags)
* It has to be aerodynamically proven to some extent (if I'm riding a bike, I want to have the added benefit of *knowing* I'm on a fast bike)
* It has to be easy to fit to *me* (not necessarily in the general case)
* The front end needs to be uncluttered - if I can get a straight stem to TT interface, then bonus
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So, Shiv Pro is out because it fell off the ugly tree.
Giant Trinity doesn't *seem* to have particularly great aerodynamics, in comparison to the Shiv and the P5 at least. It might do, but I need to have more confidence than that. So, the Giant is out. Same for the Canyon - I'm just not convinced about it's aerodynamics.
I'm not sure if I like the P5 or not, aesthetically. It's better than the Shiv but still, it looks... heavy. The P3 is much prettier. However, it's old and I'd want something up-to-date.
The DA1, with a fixed, flat stem, would be towards the top of my list. If I could get a good fit, I'd probably choose that. Or the BMC, which is also very nicely put together.
DA1 is available at my LBS, BMC is Evans only. So, DA1 it is.
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haych_seedy
Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Posts: 2352 Location: Reading
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| Veggieboy wrote: | | Time2Tri wrote: | One that is comfortable and fits...
For a more sensible price range though with Di2 (need an excuse to get a TT bike as I like my old road bike), I have been looking at the Canyon and Team. Also waiting to see when Planet X and Boardman bring out the Di2 bikes..
On another point, not sure if I am a wimp or not, but because of the hills in the longer events, I am looking at compact gearing.. |
Only a "serious triathlete" would laugh at compact gearing
It is essential that you have the correct gearing for the way you cycle and the terrain you are covering
If that is a compact them so be it |
I'm not embarrassed to say I have a triple on my road bike. Veggie is right - gear to the riding you do.
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chunkytfg
Joined: 19 Jan 2011 Posts: 745 Location: Norfolk or Harrow
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Veggieboy wrote: | | Time2Tri wrote: | One that is comfortable and fits...
For a more sensible price range though with Di2 (need an excuse to get a TT bike as I like my old road bike), I have been looking at the Canyon and Team. Also waiting to see when Planet X and Boardman bring out the Di2 bikes..
On another point, not sure if I am a wimp or not, but because of the hills in the longer events, I am looking at compact gearing.. |
Only a "serious triathlete" would laugh at compact gearing
It is essential that you have the correct gearing for the way you cycle and the terrain you are covering
If that is a compact them so be it |
Or you could have a selection of chainrings to suit the event you are doing? My TT bike has a 52/36 compact set up on it which with an 11 on the back is good enough for most and you have the option to put a 50 on it if your rides end up hillier
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theprawn
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 6413 Location: ldn
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have compact gearing on my S1. I prefer it, once I get to the stage it's spinning out, approaching 30mph I'm happy to be soft pedaling and saving some energy for a harder bit of the course.
I have a really close range cassette as well so there's a big crossover between the big ring and the small ring. I find it helps on short courses with dead turns sharp ups over bridges etc. I rarely find myself in the wrong gear or in that horrible place where you can't quite match your gearing, cadence and speed and it all feels a bit wrong.
Just my 2p.
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KDL
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 1528 Location: Maulden, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Not quite the answers I was looking for, but pretty pleased with the new rig.
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theprawn
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 6413 Location: ldn
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:12 am Post subject: |
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so the whole thread was just a set up for a picture of your bike?
i'd have got one of the other ones.
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TimmyG
Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 3249 Location: Sandy Beds...
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| theprawn wrote: | so the whole thread was just a set up for a picture of your bike?
i'd have got one of the other ones. |
Maybe he was undecided and made the purchase in those 31 hours...
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KDL
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 1528 Location: Maulden, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it was a cheap shot of a thread!
But i did want to know how our community rated the options before showing my hand, apologies if its come across a bit selfishly. But you know how bike pirn can go to your head! Been a 8-10 week project this, daren't go out on it until its bone dry out there!
My plan is to fix it to the turbo over winter (with a trainer wheel), and follow a trainer road plan.
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chunkytfg
Joined: 19 Jan 2011 Posts: 745 Location: Norfolk or Harrow
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| theprawn wrote: | so the whole thread was just a set up for a picture of your bike?
i'd have got one of the other ones. |
If I had that kind of budget to buy a bike and then a Mavic disc I think I may have gone for a better front wheel than the PX one!!
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T-rex of Tri
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 5860 Location: Wellington, NZ
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| TimmyG wrote: | | theprawn wrote: | so the whole thread was just a set up for a picture of your bike?
i'd have got one of the other ones. |
Maybe he was undecided and made the purchase in those 31 hours... |
The whole thing has been kinda hilarious... trying to get people to say how cool they think the Giant bike is to justify spending a lot on it and then no-one agreeing with you.
I mean it's a nice bike but it's not making me excited, I'd want some Di2 and a better front wheel if I was having a what money can buy bike to post on a thread.
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knighty76
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 415 Location: Huddersfield, Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| theprawn wrote: | I have compact gearing on my S1. I prefer it, once I get to the stage it's spinning out, approaching 30mph I'm happy to be soft pedaling and saving some energy for a harder bit of the course.
I have a really close range cassette as well so there's a big crossover between the big ring and the small ring. I find it helps on short courses with dead turns sharp ups over bridges etc. I rarely find myself in the wrong gear or in that horrible place where you can't quite match your gearing, cadence and speed and it all feels a bit wrong.
Just my 2p. |
Agree completely, pick whatever gearing suits your ride. Nothing wrong with a compact.
However - seems to me that if you need a compact for the terrain then you probably don't want to be on a TT bike anyway? Unless we are talking just a few short sharp hills on a mainly flatish course..
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mrchopsaloty
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 4965 Location: Woking - Surrey
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| knighty76 wrote: | | However - seems to me that if you need a compact for the terrain then you probably don't want to be on a TT bike anyway? Unless we are talking just a few short sharp hills on a mainly flatish course.. |
Disagree. Norseman is a prime example of a famously hard course, one which I have no doubt I'm better off with a compact but also sure I'm faster on a TT bike than a road bike. Most tough courses are the same. What goes up must come down.
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