Ardgarton Triathlon

[NRGevents]

They are indeed. working on further details as we speak... any specific questions regarding these events please feel free to email us at events@nationalracegroup.com and we will be happy to help.

[IanR]

Looks like a good prep for C2S. Do you have the middle distance profiles ? and is the run off road too.
Thanks
Ian

[NRGevents]

hi IanR. Is it Loch Carron or Forest hills you are enquiring about? will work on gradient profiles for run and cycles over next few days. will let you all know when i get them on entry central. FH is off road and LC is a mix of road and forestry. Hope this helps.

[AngryTriathlete]

Sorry, just seen this thread & have to wade in with my opinion

1'st off, the rest and be thankfull roads not a great one for cycling, traffic, the cars speeds, cars don't share very well & the roads been closed a few times for landslips, not a road to cycle by choice not a road for having a large number of cyclists on. Unless you are planning for a fatality.
Clearly from your posts none of you have even cycled the routes, you can't organise something if you don't do the ground work.

"If you have British Cycling Consultant" which I seriously doubt, you're just attempting to add credence to your events, they would have gone over the route & come back to you and said it's dangerous.
I'm also very sceptical that Robert Hamilton's not involved with another front event business, piggy backing off of established companies names NRG is too close to comfort for XNRG

You're offering everything that Vigour and Discover are claiming to be doing, the association is just too close for me.

& Finally if Elaine's such an upstanding person and was so disgusted by Robert Hamiltons decision making and desire to make money, this has just been copied as a smokescreen from Ky's post on the linked pages to the St Andrews Tri, she'd have surely,showed her sense of morality at the, mentioned mediation meeting, in the other thread.

Ky if you're even lurking about, how about you shed some more light on this ? Elaine was your point of contact at Discover running up to St Andrews so she had all your concerns & more if I remember rightly.

I love this sport, Scotland has great locations and great events I wish they all went like East Fife or Lochore, I don't want somebodyelse coming in putting on a huge event with no organisational track record, apart from huge failures.

Just far to uncomfortable for me, perhaps I'll be proved wrong


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[NRGevents]

Firstly we would like to reiterate that NRG Events have absolutely no association with Vigour or Discover and we are not in the business of deceiving, endangering or disappointing our potential clients. Multisport was a company Elaine worked for last year and has since left due to her concern regarding the running of this company. It is unfair that she should be victimised due to her previous employer, and our organisation refuse to let narrow minded individuals with personal vendettas force a competent and valued member of our team out of their position.

With regard to our cycling consultant I can assure you that this individual ( that I am reluctant now to name should he receive a similar attitude) is very much a reputable employee of British cycling and consults for our organisation on a free lance basis. He along with the director of NRG have cycled all of the routes proposed and we have driven the route many times in the planning process. We cannot base an event on unforseeable eventualities such as landslides, asteroids etc and as mentioned many times before we have agreed to have a police presence along with vehicle escorts in order to reduce thelikelihood of potential problems.

We would appreciate that anyone reading this thread be mindful of the fact there may be alterior motives at play here as certain individuals seem determined to ruin the reputation of a company before it has had a chance to prove itself. We appreciate all feedback positive or negative and will be happy to answer any further questions you may have.

NRG team

[Alan A]

[ianmcl]

a small point of order: it's quite normal for TS Sanction to be awarded no more than 3 or 4 weeks prior to race day

[Toyota_Crown]

lets stay positive here folks, no prizes for winning a negative argument
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[seren nos]

Hi.glad to see the responses on here..

can I just re ask my question.............what other long distance events or other events or triathlons have you organised in the past,.,...............As i said it take s a lot of training to do an ironman distance race so would need to know that the people involved have some experience in it........even if it wasn't a long distance event.........just proof that they have run successful well organised events.

thanks

[GrahamO]

Just to add my tuppence.

I will not be taking part but thats not unusual - nor do I know or care about previous companies, previous events et al. Thats a side issue. My mothers family live in Kintyre so I have had the (dis)pleasure of the RABT for the last 50 or so years, admittedly with only the last 30 being under my own steam.

When I heard that the road was going to be used for a triathlon cycling route I just laughed and thought someone was joking. Short of using the M25, I cannot imagine a worse road to use, although I clearly don't know every road in the UK. I can just see people coming off tribars at 50mph+ into the back of cars due to bumps in the road on the route down, and on the way up, groups of cyclists stuck behind heavily laden artics crawling up at 6mph.

Thats all.
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[NRGevents]

Thank you all for your comments.

We would first like to address the issue of Robert Hamilton - Discover/Vigour. NRG Events have no connection to this individual other than the fact that a member of our organisation was a previous employee, as mentioned she left this company due to her discomfort in their attitude towards event management. I will highlight however the fact that lessons were learnt from St Andrews triathlon and before she left this company Elaine successfully ran two events, Campbeltown triathlon and Loch Eck swim festival.
We would now request that any further comments on this thread remain in relation to Ardgartan triathlon or NRG.

We have already addressed the concerns over the chosen cycle routes and have taken steps to ensure it is as safe as any other cycle race. As ianmcl mentioned sanctioning is not received until all documentation has been verified and risk assessments received, generally two months prior to the event taking place, however we would like to note that we have started the sanctioning process and will keep you up to date.

We feel we are having to defend ourselves in a way no other company would be expected to which is highly unfair although we are happy to answer any questions.

On the issue of experience we have a very varied group of people within our team, although not all have had triathlon experience. The company director worked for SCA for numerous years organising major annual events and recently left a post as safety advisor for the coast guard. He has invaluable knowledge of safety craft, tides, water procedures etc. Our cycle coordinators consist of a current employee of British cycling who works for us on a consultancy basis, helping to plan and test cycle routes. As discussed we will be utilising the assistance of NEG (The National Escort Group GB was formed by British Cycling and British Triathlon to provide an accredited group of motorcyclists trained to assist with the safety of events held on the public highway and aims to enhance and maximise safety for competitors, officials and members of the general public alike.) motorcyclists as they have vast knowledge and experience in road racing Our head of cycle was instrumental in the organisation of mountain bike world cup and has participated in events such as mega avalanche and numerous others across Europe and USA. The rest of our team are marketing and website developers who are committed runners although have had no direct event experience, have certainly participated in major events and have an excellent grasp of what makes a successful event.

I hope this goes some way to assure you of our commitment to organising successful events , should anyone require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us at events@nationalracegroup.com

Many Thanks,
NRG

[Toyota_Crown]

Let's credit the race organiser for coming on here many don't and NRG will prob need to be thick skinned about what they respond to, but let's not frighten them off please.
It's a shame they're catching the biff from a different botched event.
So regarding contentious comment over individuals, could be a good idea to mail them directly as they've repeatedly suggested.

We don't want lawyers phones ringing again FFS.
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"what a wretched snivelling whinning bag of TC-wolf crying-itis. After all the near death, spongy shinned, phlegm coughing lack of mojo codswallop he smashes VLM in under 3 hrs. Officially the biggest sandbagger known to mankind. Period" MTriton

[GrahamO]

Best having at all out in the open TC for all to see - that way people will have to be careful what they "allege" and in return the respondent will have to be accurate and be prepared to be quoted in court

As you said, chapeau to the organisers.

I am amazed there is a tri in Campbeltown though - talk about a rural backwater with little to entertain the locals. If the organisers can make it work there, then they can probably make it work anywhere.

Assuming the locals don't eat the competitors of course - its the Scottish equivalent of Deliverance
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[Toyota_Crown]

[Davem]

As I am so close (30 minute drive) - I'll get the bike re-assembled and go for a spin round some of the route and give you some additional impartial feedback.

Might need to dig the stabilisers out as I havent sat on the bike since June!
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