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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:20 pm    Post subject: Leaky heart valve... Reply with quote

I volunteered to assist in some cardiovascular research by Aberdeen Uni recently - they wanted athletic men for a study of muscle/fat and insulin... or something like that.

Assuming I continue on the research, as payback I get all the usefuls like Max HR, LT, VO2 max etc. all measured clinically and accurately.

Anyway, I had an hour's worth of ultrasound examination of my heart from every possible angle, in huge detail, for the first screening - quite scary seeing your ticker on screen working away in minute detail, blood in/out, valves clicking away... Seemed wrong somehow. Some things should just never be seen Shocked

Long story short they found that my aortic valve has a very slight leak in it - the official scale is "mild", "moderate" and "severe". I registered below mild, as "trace". I was advised it was nothing to worry about but should just be aware of it. Also I was told I can carry on training and racing and not to worry, or back off in any way. Apparently you can go up to "moderate" and still live a relatively normal life.

It obviously sh@t me up a bit, despite being advised not to worry about it.

Just wondered if anyone else has experience of this?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A relative has something that sounds like that since childhood and she is in her eighties. I wouldn't worry Gus. Remember the more detail you look the more you will find, even stuff that is considered ok and normal.

But if the worst does happen, and let's face it does to us all one day, I can absolutely assure you that it is nothing to fear. It's actually quite a calming experience.

Crack on young man. You know it's a trace and ok.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A relative has something that sounds like that since childhood and she is in her eighties. I wouldn't worry Gus. Remember the more detail you look the more you will find, even stuff that is considered ok and normal.

But if the worst does happen, and let's face it does to us all one day, I can absolutely assure you that it is nothing to fear. It's actually quite a calming experience.

Crack on young man. You know it's a trace and ok.


Thanks Sloggers, I laughed out loud at that. I don't actually fear death like many people do so that part of it isn't actually that scary. God knows what an effort living is so I've always viewed death as a bit of a relief really - hence why most people probably do see it as a 'calming experience'. I suspect my last thought on this earth (apart from my children, of course) will be... finally, thank feck for that.

But seriously, I wonder actually if a lot of people may well have the same thing but it's never discovered. It's certainly not normal practice for people to have such a detailed examination unless they have a noticeable problem, so I suspect there may be quite a percentage of the population with 'trace' leaky valves.

At least I hope. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mum has it and is probably in the "moderate" range now.

You'll be fine. How do I know - because she's now 70 and has had a life of this:
6 children
1 divorce (alcoholic husband)
4 Comrades marathons
Endless numbers of open water swim events where she's won her category
Endless numbers of marathons training for those 4 comrades + 1 comrades she couldn't do because of shin splints.
Smoked. Stopped smoking
Moved countries 3 times.
Still swims a mile at least 4 times a week
Still does line dancing, square dancing, walking.
2 bouts of breast cancer - one requiring chemo therapy.

Like I said. You'll be fine. It's nice to know, and probably worth investing in a scan every couple of years for peace of mind. But, let's face it, we're all going to die one day. I'd rather die knowing I'd filled my potential and saying oh well. Than spend the life not filling my potential "just in case" and saying "what if" when I'm still alive at 95.

Edit: Should add that she found hers due to the cancer treatments as they require quite intensive investigations - that has only been in the last 8 years, not during her sporting years.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gus wrote:
I suspect my last thought on this earth (apart from my children, of course) will be... finally, thank feck for that.


Mine was "have I done enough".

Context:-

When my body started to hurt, bit by bit and I found myself unable to walk without extreme pain, and inch by inch, I was calm. I could feel death coming and I was ready, content happy.

After a short while (this all happened within an hour or two) as I felt myself drifting off ( the nurse told me to stay awake but when I said I couldn't she said that she would wake me in 2 hours) I went into a "calm panic" being really concerned in case I had not "done enough". Whatever enough was I had no idea, but at that moment in time I was just concerned that I may have failed to "do enough". But it was a calm panic which I know may not make much sense.

I went through an Egyptian weighing of the heart type judgement and found that I had passed (somehow) and the gods were jovial and told me to pass through the now open door into the bright light. I questioned their decision, seriously I questioned the gods asking if they were sure. They laughed even more and took it well, before sending me down a second judgement, more Christian a bit like taking a subway train past my deamons and then down the old white tunnel finding myself at the old gates of heaven. Again I was allowed to pass, and I was so so eager to take that final step, when I was asked by the guardian of the gate (St Paul? I am not that religious) if I would consider returning at the request of God (presumably to do more, but more what who knows). I had a freewill choice, but reasonsed that regardless of my own personal desire to "get the hell outta here and quit this life" I should perhaps put my faith in God and accept his request to return. So I did.

Moments later I awoke to the nurse shining a light in my eye, feeling as fresh as a daisy.

Worried my consultant no end who had me transferred to specialist surgery (which I managed to avoid at the last minute as well, cost me a decent breakfast that did). Took me a week to recover enough to go home, and a couple of years to get back to full strength (I had an infected cut in my ear, and my face had a golf ball on it).

In the Masonic world (iirc it was there) some have asked what my "mission from God " is. Truly I don't knowingly have one. All I know is that either (a) he wanted me here, or (b) I was hallucinating in a fever spike on a cocktail of hospital drugs.

My point Gus, you are right not to fear death. If for no other reason it happens to us all one day.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SloggingScotsman wrote:
Gus wrote:
I suspect my last thought on this earth (apart from my children, of course) will be... finally, thank feck for that.


Mine was "have I done enough".





I went through an Egyptian weighing of the heart type judgement and found that I had passed (somehow) and the gods were jovial and told me to pass through the now open door into the bright light. I questioned their decision, seriously I questioned the gods asking if they were sure. They laughed even more and took it well, before sending me down a second judgement, more Christian a bit like taking a subway train past my deamons and then down the old white tunnel finding myself at the old gates of heaven. Again I was allowed to pass, and I was so so eager to take that final step, when I was asked by the guardian of the gate (St Paul? I am not that religious) if I would consider returning at the request of God (presumably to do more, but more what who knows). I had a freewill choice, but reasonsed that regardless of my own personal desire to "get the hell outta here and quit this life" I should perhaps put my faith in God and accept his request to return. So I did.

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when i think of all the people who have died and gone to heaven, i'm moved to make another choice...

..not sure who I'm incorrectly quoting, but it'll do for me...

i found out only a few weeks ago that i have (had?) a fourth heart sound as diagnosed 35 years ago...not sure of any implications...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awildt wrote:

4 Comrades marathons
Endless numbers of open water swim events where she's won her category
Endless numbers of marathons training for those 4 comrades + 1 comrades she couldn't do because of shin splints.


Damn, I was hoping I'd finally found a legitimate reason to explain my very poor race performance over the years Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gus wrote:
awildt wrote:

4 Comrades marathons
Endless numbers of open water swim events where she's won her category
Endless numbers of marathons training for those 4 comrades + 1 comrades she couldn't do because of shin splints.


Damn, I was hoping I'd finally found a legitimate reason to explain my very poor race performance over the years Wink


Nah...i think you are entitled to take all the credit for that... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let Dave Brailsford know - sounds like you have an excuse to receive a bumper-sized jiffy bag.
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