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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrace wrote:
Just picked up an ISM PL 1.1 (new Prologue) for 32.49 at PlanetX.

Wanted to try an ISM for a while but the price was stopping me from "just trying". At that price though...


I saw that at the back end of last week. It was a seriously good price. I have previously tried a prologue though, and found it rubbed between the thighs with the wider "nose" (I know they technically dont have a nose). Not sure if the 1.1 is a slightly different design however? When you say "new", is there a summary of differences?

Altho its too late now, as they've all gone of course!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1.1 is based on the Adamo Attack design. More of a gradual/linear increase in width front to back which in theory means there are more positions on it that are comfortable. I think the nose is just as wide as the other models though. I have an attack on my main bike and a 1.1 on the wattbike. Pretty happy with both although do sometimes wonder about trying one of the shorter models such as the road
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:48 pm    Post subject: STRYD Reply with quote

Latest toy arrived today... I think I'll be on the track, tomorrow...[img][/img]
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: STRYD Reply with quote

hopper-tri wrote:
Latest toy arrived today... I think I'll be on the track, tomorrow...[img][/img]


Wtf is that ?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: STRYD Reply with quote

GrahamO wrote:
hopper-tri wrote:
Latest toy arrived today... I think I'll be on the track, tomorrow...[img][/img]


Wtf is that ?


nipple monitor
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: STRYD Reply with quote

GrahamO wrote:
Wtf is that ?

Gen2 Stryd running power meter I believe
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: STRYD Reply with quote

stenard wrote:
GrahamO wrote:
Wtf is that ?

Gen2 Stryd running power meter I believe


i wonder if they finally got a decent physiologist to improve the rationale of their data?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: STRYD Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
stenard wrote:
GrahamO wrote:
Wtf is that ?

Gen2 Stryd running power meter I believe


i wonder if they finally got a decent physiologist to improve the rationale of their data?

Not sure. It's their own blog, but I did find the data from this intriguing at least: http://blog.stryd.com/2016/10/21/stryd-at-kona-case-study-of-two-pros/

Again, on a recent podcast with a Kona pro, he did make a valid point about the current status of running with power. He accepted there was little data, but compared it to when PM's first arrived on the bike, and there was apparently much scepticism. He actually said long term he can see much more benefit in a PM on the run, as the physiological cost in terms of reducing efficiency of biomechanics and running form have an even bigger impact, whereas on the bike you're locked into a stable position.

I think most would accept running power meters have some evolution ahead of them, but that doesnt mean the existing products are totally worthless. I'd certainly be interested to try one if the opportunity arose or a sale pops up somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: STRYD Reply with quote

stenard wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
stenard wrote:
GrahamO wrote:
Wtf is that ?

Gen2 Stryd running power meter I believe


i wonder if they finally got a decent physiologist to improve the rationale of their data?

Not sure. It's their own blog, but I did find the data from this intriguing at least: http://blog.stryd.com/2016/10/21/stryd-at-kona-case-study-of-two-pros/

Again, on a recent podcast with a Kona pro, he did make a valid point about the current status of running with power. He accepted there was little data, but compared it to when PM's first arrived on the bike, and there was apparently much scepticism. He actually said long term he can see much more benefit in a PM on the run, as the physiological cost in terms of reducing efficiency of biomechanics and running form have an even bigger impact, whereas on the bike you're locked into a stable position.

I think most would accept running power meters have some evolution ahead of them, but that doesnt mean the existing products are totally worthless. I'd certainly be interested to try one if the opportunity arose or a sale pops up somewhere.


absolutely...i'm not a doubter...I can see great potential with the product, just that as yet they have not explained its benefits well.....

i have had 3 people come to me so far to determine why, despite producing more power (a simplified summary) they are not performing appreciably better...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: STRYD Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
stenard wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
stenard wrote:
GrahamO wrote:
Wtf is that ?

Gen2 Stryd running power meter I believe


i wonder if they finally got a decent physiologist to improve the rationale of their data?

Not sure. It's their own blog, but I did find the data from this intriguing at least: http://blog.stryd.com/2016/10/21/stryd-at-kona-case-study-of-two-pros/

Again, on a recent podcast with a Kona pro, he did make a valid point about the current status of running with power. He accepted there was little data, but compared it to when PM's first arrived on the bike, and there was apparently much scepticism. He actually said long term he can see much more benefit in a PM on the run, as the physiological cost in terms of reducing efficiency of biomechanics and running form have an even bigger impact, whereas on the bike you're locked into a stable position.

I think most would accept running power meters have some evolution ahead of them, but that doesnt mean the existing products are totally worthless. I'd certainly be interested to try one if the opportunity arose or a sale pops up somewhere.


absolutely...i'm not a doubter...I can see great potential with the product, just that as yet they have not explained its benefits well.....

i have had 3 people come to me so far to determine why, despite producing more power (a simplified summary) they are not performing appreciably better...

On the face of it, you would think its along the same lines as producing more power on the bike, but being less aero to do so, and ultimately getting slower. In the same way as bike power, it would certainly never be the be all and end all, and as there are so many more moving parts to running, I can see it taking quite a while to get to the bottom of the data being produced and collected.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote






And for the first time in my life, I bought a bicycle bell as its mandatory for the Vatternrundan ride.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the stryd is still new and much in development.
I'm hoping that like so many turbo's, although not yet accurate, it may still offer me repeatable data, that I can then put into action in my training sessions...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New lid, for the coming season...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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