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Flee




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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:43 pm    Post subject: Salt Tablets Reply with quote

I'd like to try using salt tablets for my longer bike rides with the idea of getting used to taking them in advance of my race day nutrition.

Anybody got any advice, any warnings, and any products that they recommend.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why do you need them?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
why do you need them?


this - but why do you THINK you need them?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
why do you need them?


To replace the lost salts from sweating and prevent cramp.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doca wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
why do you need them?


To replace the lost salts from sweating and prevent cramp.


^^ what he said 😀
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge, there is no scientific 'smoking gun' linking electrolyte loss to cramping.

Personally, I have had some terrible cramps in races, but why not in my training sessions, many of which were much hotter (and with less fluid) than race day? Why? Because in races, we tend to push ourselves further and harder than in training, particularly as age groupers. This cramping is caused by neuro-muscular fatigue.

Taking electrolytes is wise on longer/warmer sessions, but it's not a silver bullet where cramps are concerned.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in extreme conditions there may be times where salt tablets are required...but you'd need to replicate those conditions in training to make that a sensible idea...

i am a fan of practising your race intake in training and taking in elecrolytes at appropriate levels for training is useful

I suffered from cramp badly when i was younger both in and out of competition and took calcium tablets daily for a recognised deficiency which seemed to ease some cramp situations. When I raced and tried to exceed my training status, I was still prone to cramping...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the saltsticks tablets but I suffered badly as they prevented me from digesting my nutrition. I have read that they can create a barrier to absorbing the content of the stomach. I stick to electrolytes in drinks now
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just echoing what the others have said, there's no need. I use electrolytes but only to flavour water TBH.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I can tell cramping is not very well understood so who can say salt tablets don't help? It makes sense to me that if you lose salts during sweating then surely it would better to replace them. I use them in training & have never had any negative effects.
Maybe they are having no benefit but I prefer not to change whats not broken.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doca wrote:
As far as I can tell cramping is not very well understood so who can say salt tablets don't help? It makes sense to me that if you lose salts during sweating then surely it would better to replace them. I use them in training & have never had any negative effects.
Maybe they are having no benefit but I prefer not to change whats not broken.


It also makes sense to think the sun revolves around the Earth. You can see it happen, can't you.

You also lose urea when you sweat, but you don't start drinking piss to replace it do you?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doca wrote:
As far as I can tell cramping is not very well understood so who can say salt tablets don't help? It makes sense to me that if you lose salts during sweating then surely it would better to replace them. I use them in training & have never had any negative effects.
Maybe they are having no benefit but I prefer not to change whats not broken.


Read waterlogged by Noakes. Will change the way the sports nutrition companies have made you think about the whole hydration situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes to Waterlogged, great read
On a personal n=1 experience, I find cramping correlates well to simple fatigue, especially in hamstring. So poor conditioning or over doing the training volume leads to my cramping.
I've never yet had problems with poor salt intake and I am a sweater. In fact, I rarely take a drink in a marathon and rarely suffer cramping as long as I'm well prepared
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hammerer wrote:
Doca wrote:
As far as I can tell cramping is not very well understood so who can say salt tablets don't help? It makes sense to me that if you lose salts during sweating then surely it would better to replace them. I use them in training & have never had any negative effects.
Maybe they are having no benefit but I prefer not to change whats not broken.


Read waterlogged by Noakes. Will change the way the sports nutrition companies have made you think about the whole hydration situation.


yes, but it took Noakes years to get off his high horse and be honest about much of his other work...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
hammerer wrote:
Doca wrote:
As far as I can tell cramping is not very well understood so who can say salt tablets don't help? It makes sense to me that if you lose salts during sweating then surely it would better to replace them. I use them in training & have never had any negative effects.
Maybe they are having no benefit but I prefer not to change whats not broken.


Read waterlogged by Noakes. Will change the way the sports nutrition companies have made you think about the whole hydration situation.


yes, but it took Noakes years to get off his high horse and be honest about much of his other work...

At least he did though, with a well researched "climb down"
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