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Tin Pot




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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:07 pm    Post subject: New shoes? Reply with quote

As an adjunct to the Achilles thread, I think I'm going to buy new trainers.

I'm using Adidas Supernova Glide Boost 8 (blue below) so far this year, Asics GT 2000 last year (orange below)

The physios say I should wear Asics, so I might use my old ones this week and at Wimbleball. To my eye they look much more worn on the front sole than heel, so maybe I've moved away from heavy heel striking.






Strictly I'm a 6 extra wide, but the Asics are a 7 and the Adidas are 7.

I also have some Nike Airmax Lunarglide in 6W winging their way to me, but not clear when I'll get them as they are a gift.

Thoughts/abuse appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why do the physios say that you should wear Asics???
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
why do the physios say that you should wear Asics???


"Asics are the best, Nike and Adidas aren't real running shoes. They don't give your arches any support...etc"

I don't challenge people beyond their wit, I find that it upsets them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin Pot wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
why do the physios say that you should wear Asics???


"Asics are the best, Nike and Adidas aren't real running shoes. They don't give your arches any support...etc"

I don't challenge people beyond their wit, I find that it upsets them.


Think you need a new physio rather than new trainers. The best shoes are the ones that fit you best and are comfortable and provide the correct support in the correct place. Ascis make a a huge variety of shoe, as do all manufacturers.

I am loyal to Saucony but that is because I tried loads on in the shop on their treadmill till I found what was best for me and so I stick with them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What iwaters said.

To say adidas and nike don't make proper running shoes is just nonsense. Because they make casual shoes based on running shoes doesn't make their actual running shoes any worse than anyone elses.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but I've got little time to find a different physio and no objective way to know how good they are anyway.

It is true that the Boost shoes are more cushioning and less supportive than the GT 2000, at least if product marketing and internet reviews are to be trusted. Plus, given that I had no injuries last year, it's unlikely the GT2000 will cause problems.

IMO, worst case is that the shoes have no effect. Best case, they help avoid recurrence.

Happy to hear otherwise..?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin Pot wrote:
I agree, but I've got little time to find a different physio and no objective way to know how good they are anyway.

It is true that the Boost shoes are more cushioning and less supportive than the GT 2000, at least if product marketing and internet reviews are to be trusted. Plus, given that I had no injuries last year, it's unlikely the GT2000 will cause problems.

IMO, worst case is that the shoes have no effect. Best case, they help avoid recurrence.

Happy to hear otherwise..?

If you find the asics comfortable then keep wearing them, particularly if you find them more comfortable than the adidas runners. I keep using shoes until they are falling apart or become uncomfortable.

How come you bought new shoes?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedro Peru wrote:
Tin Pot wrote:
I agree, but I've got little time to find a different physio and no objective way to know how good they are anyway.

It is true that the Boost shoes are more cushioning and less supportive than the GT 2000, at least if product marketing and internet reviews are to be trusted. Plus, given that I had no injuries last year, it's unlikely the GT2000 will cause problems.

IMO, worst case is that the shoes have no effect. Best case, they help avoid recurrence.

Happy to hear otherwise..?

If you find the asics comfortable then keep wearing them, particularly if you find them more comfortable than the adidas runners. I keep using shoes until they are falling apart or become uncomfortable.

How come you bought new shoes?


I like to have fresh shoes at the start of the season and pairs I can rotate so I don't become to reliant on a particular shoe.

The Adidas feel fine, ran in the old Asics yesterday and they felt fine too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you do anything other than running in your shoes?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin Pot wrote:

"Asics are the best, Nike and Adidas aren't real running shoes. They don't give your arches any support...etc"


Did they then go on to tell you your 'glutes aren't firing'?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need to see / pay a physio to tell you what running shoes are best for you. A reputable running shoe shop will do an analysis and sell you the best shoes for you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jan wrote:
You don't need to see / pay a physio to tell you what running shoes are best for you. A reputable running shoe shop will do an analysis and sell you the best shoes for you.


they will sell you some shoes, certainly...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Jan wrote:
You don't need to see / pay a physio to tell you what running shoes are best for you. A reputable running shoe shop will do an analysis and sell you the best shoes for you.


they will sell you some shoes, certainly...

Agreed.

I have never seen a running shop look at anything but the foot/shoe combination as the cause/cure for running issues. Even a really fancy one with force plates chose to ignore the fact that the person in question spent almost double the time on the ground with the injured side than the none injured side. All they saw was over-pronation. Guess what? They had a shoe for that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want to get to the bottom of the problem and solve it you need a recommended physio who is used to sports injuries, particularly running.

The place I go to has a treadmill and video gait analysis, podiatrists and physios.

I had problems previously with ankle pain. It was caused by flat feet and the place above sorted my out with custom orthotics. Have run 1000s kms since and never had a problem again.

Running shops don't do #@?#, even when they offer "gait analysis". All they do is let you try on loads and chose what you wan't
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
do you do anything other than running in your shoes?

No. I'd wear brogues/oxfords for work and most social events. Although I'd wear trainers to the pub if, say, my feet were hurting.
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