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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Exactly, The Doctor is a freakin' alien, and it has been established that Time Lords can change gender when they regenerate (The Master/Missy).


If that were the true reason then it would be entirely reasonable.

But its not. Its the luvvies at the Beeb trying be PC.


do you have any actual proof of that?? and frankly does it matter?? it's a TV programme ffs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That the above 'reason' given for the choice of a female was why they did the change.


I didn't mention any reason, only that it is entirely possible within the fictional universe they created.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat buddha wrote:
GrahamO wrote:
doug wrote:
Exactly, The Doctor is a freakin' alien, and it has been established that Time Lords can change gender when they regenerate (The Master/Missy).


If that were the true reason then it would be entirely reasonable.

But its not. Its the luvvies at the Beeb trying be PC.


do you have any actual proof of that?? and frankly does it matter?? it's a TV programme ffs.


1. Yes, you only have to look back over the last couple of years with the luvvies taking about it being 'about time a woman got the role'.

2. Not at all but it doesnt alter the point. Luvvies trying to tun male roles into female roles because the male role is popular and they aren't getting enough of the success, so lets turn it into a female 'because its her turn'.

You know very well that if someone took a strong female character and turned it into a male, the luvvies would flip out. Mr Marple maybe ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrahamO wrote:
fat buddha wrote:
GrahamO wrote:
doug wrote:
Exactly, The Doctor is a freakin' alien, and it has been established that Time Lords can change gender when they regenerate (The Master/Missy).


If that were the true reason then it would be entirely reasonable.

But its not. Its the luvvies at the Beeb trying be PC.


do you have any actual proof of that?? and frankly does it matter?? it's a TV programme ffs.


1. Yes, you only have to look back over the last couple of years with the luvvies taking about it being 'about time a woman got the role'.

2. Not at all but it doesnt alter the point. Luvvies trying to tun male roles into female roles because the male role is popular and they aren't getting enough of the success, so lets turn it into a female 'because its her turn'.

You know very well that if someone took a strong female character and turned it into a male, the luvvies would flip out. Mr Marple maybe ?


You may be over-thinking things a tad Graham (or perhaps are spending too much time behind the sofa hiding from the luvvies, who I assume are some new Dr Who villain?).

So what if they switch a traditionally male role to female, or vice versa, or gender neutral. It would make for some refreshing storytelling from a different angle.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would make for some refreshing storytelling from a different angle.


Then write another story - don't take over another story because its successful and you want to leech off it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be surprised if the main reason they made the change was to trigger the anti-PC broflake brigade - and it seems to have worked Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrahamO wrote:
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It would make for some refreshing storytelling from a different angle.


Then write another story - don't take over another story because its successful and you want to leech off it.


Rebooting's the way of the future Graham, jump on board!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FoulOleRon wrote:
GrahamO wrote:
FoulOleRon wrote:
It would make for some refreshing storytelling from a different angle.


Then write another story - don't take over another story because its successful and you want to leech off it.


Rebooting's the way of the future Graham, jump on board!


FOR - I think GO's tagline sums it up

"Arguing with engineers is like wrestling in mud with a pig - after a while you realise they like it"

different folks, different strokes.

and after all. it's fantasy, not real life
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrahamO wrote:
FoulOleRon wrote:
It would make for some refreshing storytelling from a different angle.


Then write another story - don't take over another story because its successful and you want to leech off it.


Nah, be better to go back to the good old days before Shakespeare was corrupted by writing it down and boys played women.
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Judging by today's news it's obviously a cost saving exercise
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BBC One, Doctor Who casting announcement, 16 July 2017
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Complaint:

Some viewers contacted us unhappy that Jodie Whittaker has been cast as the new Doctor.

Response:

Since the first Doctor regenerated back in 1966, the concept of the Doctor as a constantly evolving being has been central to the programme. The continual input of fresh ideas and new voices across the cast and the writing and production teams has been key to the longevity of the series.

The Doctor is an alien from the planet Gallifrey and it has been established in the show that Time Lords can switch gender.

As the Controller of BBC Drama has said, Jodie is not just a talented actor but she has a bold and brilliant vision for her Doctor. She aced it in her audition both technically and with the powerful female life force she brings to the role. She is destined to be an utterly iconic Doctor.

We hope viewers will enjoy what we have in store for the continuation of the story.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaint/DoctorWhoJodieWhittaker/
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