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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
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Pyongyang Actually looks like a good place for an IM; quiet roads, next to a river, green parks

http://mashable.com/2017/09/08/north-korea-pyongyang-video/?utm_cid=hp-h-1 Very Happy


Everyone would be ordered onto the streets to support too.


Yes...and anyone over 17 hours gets a free holiday at one of their "camps"
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SidSnot wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
SidSnot wrote:
Pyongyang Actually looks like a good place for an IM; quiet roads, next to a river, green parks

http://mashable.com/2017/09/08/north-korea-pyongyang-video/?utm_cid=hp-h-1 Very Happy


Everyone would be ordered onto the streets to support too.


Yes...and anyone over 17 hours gets a free holiday at one of their "camps"
Family get to go as well. Bargain.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am surprised no-one has mentioned this
http://pyongyangmarathon.com
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"North Korea's envoy to the UN has warned "forthcoming measures" will "make the US suffer the greatest pain" it has ever experienced. Pyongyang's ambassador, Han Tae Song, made the vitriolic comments at the UN-sponsored Conference on Disarmament in Geneva. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) is "ready to use a form of ultimate means," Mr Han said, without elaborating."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-un-us-suffer-pain-nuclear-missile-weapons-icbm-disarmament-a7942056.html

What do you think this means?

1. Nothing, it's just sabre rattling.
2. NK is about to step up its game, if so why shout first? Induce fear into Americans?

I mean I can see how easy it would be for NK to motivate some poor lost souls already in America to do bad stuff, a bit like how IS do, but probably leaning more to the desire for revenge from a lost soul over something or another than ideology. By which I mean it may not be obvious that NK is behind it, just a bloke with a grudge who is motivated to seek revenge.

Or perhaps chugging one of their noisy subs closeish, but in international waters, to bring the message to America. Can't see that working though. Yet they do apparently manage with SK, but again they are probably implanted escapees.

Anyone know is it normal for NK to make such threats at the UN?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SloggingScotsman wrote:
"North Korea's envoy to the UN has warned "forthcoming measures" will "make the US suffer the greatest pain" it has ever experienced. Pyongyang's ambassador, Han Tae Song, made the vitriolic comments at the UN-sponsored Conference on Disarmament in Geneva. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) is "ready to use a form of ultimate means," Mr Han said, without elaborating."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-un-us-suffer-pain-nuclear-missile-weapons-icbm-disarmament-a7942056.html

What do you think this means?



an extra fat boy's lunch at the UN conference?

a few more glasses of barolo?

another night or two at a 5 star?

When a UN delegate can talk war at a disarmament conference and be allowed to get away with it, you know that the budget cuts must be biting...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course the sanctions are biting Ejc. But that is imo flawed thinking. Let me explain why using UK welfare sanctions etc. It's directly relevant.

Government thinks that by giving people no money at all, making them homeless as a result, and getting some food at food banks will encourage people to work. aka Hong Kong model in British days.

It might, assuming they are employable. In some cases. It might also kill some through illness from rough sleeping. Some might commit suicide. Others just get so driven by fear at the prospect that their mental state deteriorates. Some might be driven to shoplift etc etc. Bare with me.

Now convert that to the NK issue.

Sanctions might get NK to do what we all want them to do.

Equally it might corner them to do do something that we never intended nor desire or even contemplated. Why? Because everyone is different and different mindsets.

The end result could easily be NK agents and sympathisers motivating lost ordinary blokes with grudges to 'get their own back'. Etc.

Personally I think that further sanctions are a dangerous move, now that NK has meaningful nuclear ability. They can now push harder within nations without fearing so much blowback. An assassination here, a device there, etc. Especially if there are a few steps back from the obvious cause.

When you strip people of their dignity they can react in ways that are unexpected.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

read again and replace what you thought you saw with what was written...

thanks...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From your link, the US are clearly threatening war now.


They may just starve to death, sanctions or no:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/23/north-koreans-fear-more-sanctions-as-drought-pushes-millions-towards-malnutrition


The previous famine was so well managed:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin Pot wrote:
From your link, the US are clearly threatening war now.


They may just starve to death, sanctions or no:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/23/north-koreans-fear-more-sanctions-as-drought-pushes-millions-towards-malnutrition


The previous famine was so well managed:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine


as i posted earlier, the risk of going to war with lunatics is that they are prepared to all die for the cause..very few other nations are willing to pay that level of price....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
read again and replace what you thought you saw with what was written...

thanks...
appologies Ejc, I saw 'budget' but read 'sanction'. Must take greater care.


Subsequent posts above:-

This is my concern, I think that we in the West (spooks, politicians) seem to have misjudged:-

1. NK capabilities, e.g. Re speed of nuke development.
2. How NK will react to what we do (see my response to Ejc above)

Let's look at one alleged fact and one theory:-

1. NK is alleged to be behind the assassination in Macau recently of a NK figure. Apparently random women were motivated to kill by thinking that they were in a tv reality show. Whether true or not, that is inventive and could easily be adapted to the streets of America or Britain etc.

2. If I was correct on my prediction of a Labour Day 9-11 type terror attack, and let's face it only spooks will know, then spooks please listen to what I have written here. On the surface that appeared (1) to be an American bloke with a commercial grudge, (2) but other nations were guiding it, yet (3) behind all that, and I am less sure of this part, but still willing to,place my credibility on it (3) a nation from the Far East was ultimately pulling the strings. Now if you know I was wrong in this prediction then just ignore me.

Now if either of the above have a grain of truth in them, this is what I think the NK diplomat meant when he threatened America at the UN.

You will have your work cut out for you in identifying and preventing them due to their very nature, especially as they could easily involve your own national citizens (who will most likely not know who is ultimately motivating them/playing on their grievances or aspirations). Hence America, Britain, look at every route of influence that NK has through other nations, and their links into your and my countries. And be lucky, continually.

And before anyone thinks I am seeking work here, my own skills are no where near good enough at this point in time, to purposefully 'hunt'. Even if I was spot on in advance of Labour Day, doing it by accident is a world away from doing it intentionally and a world away from understanding any 'hooks' that may enable in one circumstance but not in another. This isn't a tax comp where you simply follow the rules and get the correct answer (yet).

I just think that following our evident misjudgement of the speed of NK nuclear progress (answer imo because of their viewing team), we are now applying Western conventional wisdom on how people react, to NK, and that is imo the wrong approach.

By cornering NK, I think it will do as that NK diplomat said they would at the UN and bite us hard. (Or at least try to through intermediaries)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamieMcP wrote:
I am surprised no-one has mentioned this
http://pyongyangmarathon.com


Quote:
The time limit for each race is as follows:

10k < 2 hours
Half Marathon < 2.5 hours
Full Marathon < 4 hours


What happens if you're over 4 hours?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SidSnot wrote:
JamieMcP wrote:
I am surprised no-one has mentioned this
http://pyongyangmarathon.com


Quote:
The time limit for each race is as follows:

10k < 2 hours
Half Marathon < 2.5 hours
Full Marathon < 4 hours


What happens if you're over 4 hours?


A long stay in the NK version of Club La Santa where they will put you through a vigorous exercise program and diet.

Have to say if I was winning at mile 22 I might slow down and let a local overtake me.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SidSnot wrote:
Pyongyang Actually looks like a good place for an IM; quiet roads, next to a river, green parks

http://mashable.com/2017/09/08/north-korea-pyongyang-video/?utm_cid=hp-h-1 Very Happy


http://forums.transitions.org.au/topic/70893-pyongyang-marathon/?page=2

http://forums.transitions.org.au/topic/72107-pyongyang-marathon/?tab=comments#comment-1244969
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