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stenard




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:00 pm    Post subject: ITU AG Rotterdam bike course Reply with quote

Knowing how most of you scoff at AG anyway*, I wonder what you think of this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1pOuLaD4NE

Stick with it. There are some gems in there (and you can speed up the video in youtube settings).

*full disclosure, I got a Q this year so decided to give it a go just to see what it was all about, so I am racing. That said, had this been released before I paid the entry fee, I would have reconsidered.

How a draft legal race can take place on this, I have no idea. Small mercies, I am doing the non-drafting standard distance.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would make a good run course
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suspect is that what you see on that video isn't the real bike course - the rider is using cycle ways for lots of it which are next to roads which will probably be the main bike route. I think it's illegal to ride on roads in Holland when there are cycleways next to them so for the purposes of videoing they couldn't ride the roads - but I could easily be wrong!!

However, there are many sections which do look bloody dodgy to my TOs eyes!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat buddha wrote:
I would suspect is that what you see on that video isn't the real bike course - the rider is using cycle ways for lots of it which are next to roads which will probably be the main bike route. I think it's illegal to ride on roads in Holland when there are cycleways next to them so for the purposes of videoing they couldn't ride the roads - but I could easily be wrong!!

However, there are many sections which do look bloody dodgy to my TOs eyes!!!

Unfortunately not. The video has narratives where the actual road will be used. They are quite infrequent. i.e. (clickable thumbnails)


The race pack states that large parts of the course are bike paths and footpaths. Only in one or two places does it make specific reference to changes come race day, and in the below case, I have no idea how they can change the tiny footpath that currently exists.


From a H&S perspective, there are some shocking elements. My favourites are as follows:

Who'd fancy being in a fast moving pack with a 90 degree sharp bend at the end of a straight, heading straight into the sea?


Some lovely shark like teeth?!


Roadworks on the bike path, where they are just saying it "gets narrow"! Including a bit in that section with actually scaffold-style works going on!


Another waterside section with permanently fixed benching that stick out at regular intervals


A bit of flag pole slalom to negotiate:


People are asking about road bike versus TT. I'm tempted to go home and dust off my old BMX!

(sorry for my apparently poor screenshotting with some earlier picture overlays - can't be bothered to go back through and fix!)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expect to see LOTS of barriers Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unfortunately not. The video has narratives where the actual road will be used. They are quite infrequent. i.e. (clickable thumbnails)


I didn't have the sound on so missed the narrative.

my 1st thought on that sharp right hander with the water straight on was it had better have some strong barriers! and that narrow path is bonkers as was the steps which they are going to ramp.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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my 1st thought on that sharp right hander with the water straight on was it had better have some strong barriers! and that narrow path is bonkers as was the steps which they are going to ramp.


Pah! You should have seen the seaside path we had on the LD Euro du last year.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will the AG athletes have the same course as the proper athletes Wink ?

Didn't catch the men's race, but watching the ladies I'm surprised they are all still upright. The course seems narrow & that rain must be making the cobbles & road-paint quite a sporting challenge.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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my 1st thought on that sharp right hander with the water straight on was it had better have some strong barriers! and that narrow path is bonkers as was the steps which they are going to ramp.


Pah! You should have seen the seaside path we had on the LD Euro du last year.


absolutely...sharing the space with some club rides too (and dog walkers)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, a challenging bike course favoured those who can ride...some great results today...
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