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gingerbongo




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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FatPom wrote:
I'm not sure if this is a thread for Ultra running on trails, or Ultra running and trails.

Either way, I've signed up for 'The General' in Winchester, Apr 14th. 20km trail run, that seems like enough at my time of life. Very Happy


you've just passed the entry test! Very Happy

Where is the General FP? Sounds good.

I think i may have just about located my mojo ... finally. So a big 2 weeks in store, followed by two easier and then taper. then it's business time!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think I drop by here enough.... altho ultra was mostly what I did before triathlon I have missed it.

50k in the brecons coming this weekend, should be fun Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't think I drop by here enough.... altho ultra was mostly what I did before triathlon I have missed it.

50k in the brecons coming this weekend, should be fun Smile


Is that an organised thing Ed, or just a jolly?

A couple of friends and i keep talking about taking on the Beacons way over a couple of days when we get some time free!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got an eye or two on this thread now. I've been doing a lot of trail running around my new home (less than 200m from the North Downs Way!) and have just started some trail run commutes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gingerbongo wrote:
ed_m wrote:
Don't think I drop by here enough.... altho ultra was mostly what I did before triathlon I have missed it.

50k in the brecons coming this weekend, should be fun Smile


Is that an organised thing Ed, or just a jolly?

A couple of friends and i keep talking about taking on the Beacons way over a couple of days when we get some time free!!


It's called bladerunner.. it's an extended fandance route by ex special forces. ... and I'm doing the non weight bearing category (although the mandatory kit list is pretty extensive and won't fit in my regular little pack anyway).
Hoping to drag myself out the day after for some mooching and micro nav practice.

(End of Jan is a Cambrian mountain events 25km thing...)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TriSam wrote:
Got an eye or two on this thread now. I've been doing a lot of trail running around my new home (less than 200m from the North Downs Way!) and have just started some trail run commutes.


Well, well, well Sam. I think it may be time for you to make a little trip down the South West. There are loads of great local races here on the trails, from short (10/15 miles or so) to long (100 miles). Some of which are organised by a good friend - it would be nice to see you again down this way mate!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gingerbongo wrote:
FatPom wrote:
I'm not sure if this is a thread for Ultra running on trails, or Ultra running and trails.

Either way, I've signed up for 'The General' in Winchester, Apr 14th. 20km trail run, that seems like enough at my time of life. Very Happy


you've just passed the entry test! Very Happy

Where is the General FP? Sounds good.

I think i may have just about located my mojo ... finally. So a big 2 weeks in store, followed by two easier and then taper. then it's business time!


I usually fail entrance exams (except for Oz, they'll let anyone in Wink )

The run is here:
https://www.toughenoughraces.co.uk/the-general-winchester20k/

I think it's around the Arlesford area, approx 5 miles from Winchester.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
That's confused me now Doug - to whether I have seen both sites & not realised they were different events! Are they both continuous i.e. not a stage race? One of them is a qualifier for the WS100/Leadville 100, I thought that was the 'Challenge' or is it the other way around?!

Regarding the link above, I think that article could have been framed very differently, pointing out the differences from the WHW 'Race' in a positive way, rather than 'telling tales'. Not particularly professional.

The WHW Challenge was the only one I heard of, from a friend who lives in that neck of the woods.


Now signed up for the WHW Challenge - I don't know whether to thank you or berate you for bringing it to my attention Very Happy

This year will be 30 years since my last attempt at the WHW (hiking) where I bailed at Crianlarich suffering from a fever.

I see they have also edited the history page a bit to remove all the animosity
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FatPom wrote:
gingerbongo wrote:
FatPom wrote:
I'm not sure if this is a thread for Ultra running on trails, or Ultra running and trails.

Either way, I've signed up for 'The General' in Winchester, Apr 14th. 20km trail run, that seems like enough at my time of life. Very Happy


you've just passed the entry test! Very Happy

Where is the General FP? Sounds good.

I think i may have just about located my mojo ... finally. So a big 2 weeks in store, followed by two easier and then taper. then it's business time!


I usually fail entrance exams (except for Oz, they'll let anyone in Wink )

The run is here:
https://www.toughenoughraces.co.uk/the-general-winchester20k/

I think it's around the Arlesford area, approx 5 miles from Winchester.

Thinking of doing this as part of my training for IM Lanza; cycling there from Watford (about 70mile) then do the 20k.
Would be good to catch up with you FP after your "memorable" IMW in 2015
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curry wrote:
FatPom wrote:
gingerbongo wrote:
FatPom wrote:
I'm not sure if this is a thread for Ultra running on trails, or Ultra running and trails.

Either way, I've signed up for 'The General' in Winchester, Apr 14th. 20km trail run, that seems like enough at my time of life. Very Happy


you've just passed the entry test! Very Happy

Where is the General FP? Sounds good.

I think i may have just about located my mojo ... finally. So a big 2 weeks in store, followed by two easier and then taper. then it's business time!


I usually fail entrance exams (except for Oz, they'll let anyone in Wink )

The run is here:
https://www.toughenoughraces.co.uk/the-general-winchester20k/

I think it's around the Arlesford area, approx 5 miles from Winchester.

Thinking of doing this as part of my training for IM Lanza; cycling there from Watford (about 70mile) then do the 20k.
Would be good to catch up with you FP after your "memorable" IMW in 2015


You can go off people ya know! Very Happy

That would be great to catch up mate. I'm running this with my neighbour so will be a 'just get through it' kind of pace.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm running this with my neighbour so will be a 'just get through it' kind of pace.


The only pace I know
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may or may not remember that I signed up for a 50 miler on April 2nd (12 weeks away) but I tore my calf and then got flu so I just started back from a very low base.

I ran 13.5 miles early this morning as a plod and don't feel anywhere near as leggy as I thought I would considering I only have a couple of 7/8 milers behind me.

Am I kidding myself I can get enough miles in for a 50? The plans I've seen suggest I should be at 40+ miles a week by now with lots of much longer runs under my belt.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got a decent base, you're generally fit and healthy and you're not trying to win it then you'll most likely be fine in my opinion.

I have a couple of friends that did a 100km run with me last year on the jurassic coast. One had never run further than a marathon (and that was Manchester, so pancake flat!) and one had never ran further than 10 miles!!!

He still did it in about 14.5 hours on a very tough course. And he's not a long time runner or anything. You just need a bit of mental toughness and decent resilence to pain i think!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent the first half of 2016 with hamstring tendinitis and very little running, after some physio, rest and rehab, I built from 10mile long run to a 60k ultra in 2 months, it was slow, but doable. Then again I do have a history of ultras under belt.

If you have some good miles in your legs prior to your calf tare it should be doable - so longs as the calf is now healed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this made for a very long day out... brutal climbing and terrain, ice on tops & relentless face ripping wind.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1357238600

All in all, kind of what I signed up for then!
Managed a very tender 4-5mile walk out of Brecon this morning but still rather broken.
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