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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject: Bad kids Reply with quote

There are a couple of kids (approx 11/12yrs old) who walk through our housing estate most evenings - when it's dark. I'm pretty sure it's these two, but there have been an increasing amount of low-level 'problems' - ringing doorbells and running off, smearing mud over our front door (and neighbour's windows).

More recently I've noticed the fence around our swings has been kicked down and our 'grit box' kicked over - it's a wild assumption but I strongly suspect these two. We live in a good area where there has never been any issues, graffiti, crime or anything so it really sticks out.

They know I'm on to them as a couple of times I've come out as they've walked past (by coincidence) and I've watched them run off looking obviously suspicious.

I'm concerned firstly that they may start targeting our house for mischief (I have 2 cars parked outside, so they're vulnerable) and secondly that they could escalate their mischief into more serious damage and vandalism.

In the old days, if I caught one of them up to no good, I'd give him a good thrashing. These days I'll go to prison for even looking at them the wrong way.

I don't know where they live, but I believe it's fairly close by. I tried to follow them the other night to see where, but they clocked me and ran off sharpish.

I've pondered putting up a small CCTV camera outside the house, but that seems to be expensive. I've pondered going to the local police station but without knowing who they are suspect there's not a lot they can do.

Short of leaving out man traps, I just wondered if anyone had any bright ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just re-reading this, I suspect it may come across as a bit pathetic complaining about this, especially if you're a Londoner or big-city dweller where I guess petty vandalism is rife. Up here in very rural Scotland it's really unusual... I'd rather nip it in the bud if possible.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a dummy CCCTV camera, few quid on Ebay.
May be enough of a deterrent if they're not really bad and just up to mischief.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd bite the bullet on a camera if you're that bothered; it's the only evidence you'll have of them doing anything around your house. Make sure it's concealed though, unlike your tracking skills, so they don't tamper with it Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a lot of paranoia for nothing...kids being kids...

if you react, they will rise to the challenge and this includes putting up CCTV

if you do nothing, hopefully they will move on to bigger game...

only get involved if you have considered the end game....and this could mean being happy to stand toe to toe with their parents (assuming they have any) and even then this will potentially lead to more trouble. Following and/or confronting the kids will certainly get you in trouble.

I would recommend getting to know your neighbours and, over time, creating a community...good luck..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could befriend a 'bigger kid' from their school, get him to patrol the yard and that should scare them off.

(sorry couldn't resist Wink :p )
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Make sure it's concealed though, unlike your tracking skills


You know, this was the thing that p*ssed me off more than anything Very Happy

It lead me to believe that they lived very closely because they vanished literally within seconds of going out of sight round the corner - so they were either extraordinarily good at hiding or they'd darted into one of the nearby houses.

I will NOT be out-stealthed by a bloody 11yr old. Professional pride and all that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
sounds like a lot of paranoia for nothing...kids being kids...

if you react, they will rise to the challenge and this includes putting up CCTV

if you do nothing, hopefully they will move on to bigger game...

only get involved if you have considered the end game....and this could mean being happy to stand toe to toe with their parents (assuming they have any) and even then this will potentially lead to more trouble. Following and/or confronting the kids will certainly get you in trouble.

I would recommend getting to know your neighbours and, over time, creating a community...good luck..


Actually our small estate does have a good community which is why I'm hoping it is one of the nearby houses. The parents are likely to be decent and therefore I'm happy to speak to them amicably about it (it's all good, solid oil-workers in our area - mainly managers - so it's likely they will do the thrashing of their kids if they find out what they've been up to). Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gus wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
sounds like a lot of paranoia for nothing...kids being kids...

if you react, they will rise to the challenge and this includes putting up CCTV

if you do nothing, hopefully they will move on to bigger game...

only get involved if you have considered the end game....and this could mean being happy to stand toe to toe with their parents (assuming they have any) and even then this will potentially lead to more trouble. Following and/or confronting the kids will certainly get you in trouble.

I would recommend getting to know your neighbours and, over time, creating a community...good luck..


Actually our small estate does have a good community which is why I'm hoping it is one of the nearby houses. The parents are likely to be decent and therefore I'm happy to speak to them amicably about it (it's all good, solid oil-workers in our area - mainly managers - so it's likely they will do the thrashing of their kids if they find out what they've been up to). Laughing


then they will understand if you call with their son dangling by the collar of his jacket...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Bad kids Reply with quote

Gus wrote:
In the old days, if I caught one of them up to no good, I'd give him a good thrashing.

I'm calling this Shit Happens and that you never did any such thing, tough guy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Bad kids Reply with quote

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Gus wrote:
In the old days, if I caught one of them up to no good, I'd give him a good thrashing.

I'm calling this :#@?#: and that you never did any such thing, tough guy


Arghhhh alright, you've rumbled me. I'd wag my finger sternly and give them a damn good tongue lashing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Bad kids Reply with quote

Gus wrote:
user134098 wrote:
Gus wrote:
In the old days, if I caught one of them up to no good, I'd give him a good thrashing.

I'm calling this :#@?#: and that you never did any such thing, tough guy


Arghhhh alright, you've rumbled me. I'd wag my finger sternly and give them a damn good tongue lashing.


I think, in the current climate, you're probably best off not doing that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Bad kids Reply with quote

FoulOleRon wrote:
Gus wrote:
user134098 wrote:
Gus wrote:
In the old days, if I caught one of them up to no good, I'd give him a good thrashing.

I'm calling this :#@?#: and that you never did any such thing, tough guy


Arghhhh alright, you've rumbled me. I'd wag my finger sternly and give them a damn good tongue lashing.


I think, in the current climate, you're probably best off not doing that.


Oh Ron, I knew I could rely on you.

I'm now wiping tea off my keyboard.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore them and they will get bored and move on. Engage them and you start something. It will be far more of an inconvenience to you than them.
You say they know you are on to them, thatís probably why they come back - to antagonise you.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: Bad kids Reply with quote

Gus wrote:


Short of leaving out man traps, I just wondered if anyone had any bright ideas?





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