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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:20 pm    Post subject: Bike setups. Decisions, decisions. Help me out TT-ers! Reply with quote

T1 at IM Germany got me very twitchy about a new race bike - seeing all those Look carbon frames and such like.

I'm not looking for advice on specific models (our team's sponsored by Condor and I'll get an unbeatable deal on their 2005 frames) so please don't post your own personal fantasies. Rather, my questions are a bit more general:

1) Full carbon (lugs and all) worth the extra wonga over and above aluminium frame with carbon rear stays and forks?

2) I'm really tempted to go for an aero setup with front shifters; I never really got comfortable during my Ironman and spent too much time on the brake hoods. Plus, friends have told me they really like the ability to stay aero and pick the right gear. However, this is normally done with a low-profile frame with a lower top tube and I was planning to go for a standard geometry frame. And I'm dropping back to olys/half Ironman, so maybe this will be a bit too specialised/inflexible - OK for Windsor/London but crap for hilly courses like Leybourne oly.

I have a winter bike plus my current aluminium race bike, so this one will be my super-duper race baby.

Of course, I could ask Condor all of this but half the fun of a new bike purchase is endless analysis, speculation and re-worked spec's - which is where you lot come in Smile . They'd just give me a straight answer which is no good at all - I want hours of deliberation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

PS: I haven't actually engineered the cunning financial scheme to justify this purchase yet Rolling Eyes . Any ideas on this welcome too Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not in a position to comment on 1 - wish I was though!

Think that bar end shifters are the way to go if your bike is to be a pure race bike - the ability to shift without coming off the bars makes a difference ona rolling course. Haven't raced on a very hilly course, but have trained on rolling stuff and I think you just get used to predicting the gears a bit. I change down and spin into the foot of a slope then once it climbs up am in (hopefully) the right gear. The bike I have is a low pro and is quite twitchy when out of the saddle, but I suppose it is not for climbing too much on.
I only do sprint and oly, and like it - have been up and dwon a few banks in races with no probs really, and like the comfort you get when on the bars. Think overall, even on an undulating course, you willl pick up time. and look like the daddy in transition, which is the only thing that really matters Very Happy Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bar end shifters - no, not the people landlords employ to shift stragglers out of the pub at closing time, butt hose lovely dura ace gizmos that you can strap to the end of your tri-bars. I have seen the light! Have used them for the past two seasons and would never change them for STI's, etc. As Matt said, for the majority of courses in the UK, you can stay aero for most of the time and on the odd very hilly course, you just need to think ahead. Changing gear going up steep hills takes a bit of getting used to as this is difficult when honking out of the saddle but the thing to do is to wait until the next few minutes on the saddle, ride one handed and change gear with the other.

Just about the only downside of using bar end shifters is that if you do ever end up racing in an ITU associated draft-legal race, you will not be able to use them. Another good reason for shunning these dammed awful races.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mdot, cunning plan to justify spending loads of wonga on your chosen frame. Tell her in doors it will not need the endless hours of training so you can spend more time at home. (A blatant lie really because you would be out on the training bike).

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks boys. Interesting thoughts. Two positive votes to get really shifting on the shifters then Smile

Of course, deep down we all know what really makes a bike go faster - and it aint anything to do with lugs, shifters and carbon fibre Crying or Very sad - better dust off that turbo then...

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...you willl pick up time. and look like the daddy in transition, which is the only thing that really matters


Sounds good to me Very Happy

IM: the other trick my team mate's perfected is telling her it's just a re-spray of an old frame - he's smuggled nine (yes, NINE) bikes past her with this technique over the years Exclamation
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mdot wrote:
Of course, deep down we all know what really makes a bike go faster - and it aint anything to do with lugs, shifters and carbon fibre Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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