Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 376 Location: Scottish Borders
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:
Hi All
Yes - a nice bit of support from BTF for the development of Off-Road racing - I was really pleased (and to be honest a bit surprised - thought it wouldn;t happen until 2011) to see it on the 2010 calendar,.
We had a Scottish Cross Champs up here for the first time this year as well.
Anyway - Durty Tri (British Cross Champs) is 31st July 2010 at the spectacular St. Mary's Loch, in the Scottish Borders.
The British Champs will be over the 'Long Hard Durty One' course - 1.5km OW (Freshwater Loch), 30km MTB (2-laps, nice 'n' technical, proper mountain biking), 10km Hilly(!) Off-Road Run, might even throw in a couple of natural obstacles I've found for next year.
We will also run the 'Short Fast Durty One' over Sprint distance as well, and will accept team relay entries on both courses.
In a major development for 2010, we're moving transition into the grounds of the Tibbie Shiels Inn - how good is that, a race at a pub!.
Ceilidh, Hog-Roast, Beers, Party, On-Site Camping..... what more could you want.
Entries will open early in January 2010, via Entry Central.
Race website is www.durtytriathlon.com, and will be updated soon (when Slowclimb gets a chance to do it!).
Hope to see you all there - this is a cracking, and tough race.
Cheers
Paul McG
(Race Organiser)
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Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Shropshire
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject:
Hi Paul
This is great news ! Well done on selection to host the FIRST of many national champs i hope.
I like the sound of it being technical.I have done the Selkirk Merida twice and did the National champs at inners this year as well,looking forward to a return to the area.
I hope this leads to a national series (only has to be 3 races) which would be great.As well as a national off road duathlon series to go with it.Just back from the coed-y-brennin duathlon and it was a great event.
It must be easier to organise an off road event..without the road/traffic issues ?
So come on RO's follow in paul's footsteps and let the fun begin
I had a quick look on the durty site but couldn't answer this question: is the bike course suitable for a cyclo-cross bike? (I'd be perfectly happy to run the odd section.)
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Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 376 Location: Scottish Borders
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject:
Thanks all - really great to see the enthusiasm for this stuff.
Yep - I think that off-road is easier to organise in some ways. OK, you've got to deal with more landowners, but I've always found them to be very helpful. On the plus side, RO's don't have to worry about lack of co-operation from the Police, Council etc.
It all makes life easier
Spike (and anyone else interested) - re. CX bikes - a few folks asked this last year. I own both HT + FS MTB, and CX bikes, and living where I do, ride a lot of off-road technical stuff. I would definately not use a CX for Durty Tri. You're welcome to if you insist, but I wouldn't
The course is technical in places - this is not a ride round a grassy field like some 'off-road' events. Having said that, there's nothing dangerous or extreme, but riders with some bike handling skills will do better - as is correct. Everyone will be more than able to compete though.
Cheers
Paul
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Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 116 Location: st albans
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject:
What a great development!
paul- do you think you would be able to put on an offroad dauthlon nationals alongside it?
I could lobby the BTA and help whip up the intrest through the righta channels. It seems logical as at the moment offroad Duathlon is much bigger than offroad tri in the UK.
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 376 Location: Scottish Borders
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject:
jezcox wrote:
What a great development!
paul- do you think you would be able to put on an offroad dauthlon nationals alongside it?
I could lobby the BTA and help whip up the intrest through the righta channels. It seems logical as at the moment offroad Duathlon is much bigger than offroad tri in the UK.
what do we think?
Hi Jez
That's a really interesting idea...... a couple of thoughts and event specific issues for discussion in no particular order;
1) Off Road Duathlon on Scotland (which is where the majority of entrants for an off-road race would come from) isn't that big yet. It is growing though, mainly thanks to the efforts of my clubmate Peter Baxter who runs the Glentress Duathlons.
2) Off Road Triathlon is quite big in Scotland - Durty Tri 2009 had nearly 300 entrants (a big race by Scottish standards), Ben Nevis does pretty well too.
3) The course at Durty Tri would support a Duathlon Race in that I've got run courses of both 5km and 10km and the 1 or 2 loops of the 15km MTB course.
4) However, I'm not sure the rest of the event infrastructure would support an additional Duathlon race in 2010 - my main limiting factor is car-parking. At the moment I've got enough space for around 500 competitors on-site. We're also planning on laying shuttle coaches and equipment trucks from local towns/accomodation for both logistical and environmental reasons. Our venue is without any doubt one of the most spectacular in the UK, which also means we're pretty remote. It's also in the bottom of a steep sided valley, with not much in the way of flat or farmland for car-parking.
5) I'm not 100% sure that combining Du + Tri Champs at the same event. Rightly or wrongly, the Tri is likely to dominate, and Du may be seen as '2nd class'. Duathlon deserves a Championships all of it's own. Probably the most important point I've made here.
6) My club (we're all volunteers putting this race together) have only bought into organising the Durty Tri, and that scares them enough as it is. I'd be nervous about asking them to support another race on the same day.
7) I'd be nervous about trying to deliver a brand-new event (Duathlon), alongside a high-profile race (the Cross Champs) that I really can't afford to go wrong - I've got a lot on my plate already
The two events might compete against each other for entrants - quite a lot of us are just 'multisporters', and would compete at both Tri and Du if we could.
9) The 2010 Cross Champs is going to be expensive to stage - the budget is tight despite (sizeable) applications for funding support from various places that are already under consideration. The entry fee for the 2010 British Cross Champs will (hopefully!) get you; Race, Post-Race Ceilidh, Disco, Hog-Roast, on-site Camping, all thrown in.
Might be too late to get a new Champs for 2010 through BTF at this stage. Perhaps worth a go though. Maybe the way forward is to make a weekend of it - British Cross Tri Champs on Saturday, British Cross Duathlon Championships on the Sunday.
However, definately something we should try to get together as a consortium of off-road freaks, duathletes, multisporters, and race organisers for 2011 if we can't do it next year.
I'd be really happy to bid to host (and perhaps sort out a trial race beforehand) a 2011 BTF Off-Road Duathlon Champs at the Durty Tri (Durty Duathlon has a ring to it?) venue, but think I've got enough on my plate for 2010 already.
Any thoughts people?
Cheers
Paul
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Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 116 Location: st albans
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject:
now that's all making a lot of sense.
You're right. they should be run seperately.
You've got me thinking though.... It's nice to see that teh BTA are willing to sanction it. i might see if I can get them to do the same by pairing it with another established off road duathlon in 2010.
You've got me thinking though.... It's nice to see that teh BTA are willing to sanction it. i might see if I can get them to do the same by pairing it with another established off road duathlon in 2010.
Any organisers out there keen on their event being proposed/considered?
You've got me thinking though.... It's nice to see that teh BTA are willing to sanction it. i might see if I can get them to do the same by pairing it with another established off road duathlon in 2010.
Any organisers out there keen on their event being proposed/considered?
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