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sooth




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:17 pm    Post subject: Aero Wheel Recommendations Reply with quote

Have found a few good posts on benefits of aero wheels but I'm still pretty new to cycling and would appreciate a few specific suggestions for some shiny new wheels.

Spec/background is as follows:
I ride a Trek Madone 3.5 road bike with clip on tri bars. (TT bike unlikely to happen for a couple of years)
Clinchers not tubs
Do not want to compromise handling too much in cross winds/descents
I like the idea of brakes that work well so any features that minimise braking issues with carbon wheels welcome
My big race this year is Ironman UK. I will stick with middle distance/longer stuff in future. I am not very quick - 16mph round Bolton IM loop, 18-20mph max on flats.
Budget 999.99(ish)

Any pointers would be most helpful.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a set of deep section carbon clinchers? Some sort of Mavic Cosmics with an alloy brake surface?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing to note at IM, I am guessing you have ridden is the wind, so increasing rim depth may actually slow you down not help you. Personally (and there will be a bunch of posts to follow with other personal inputs as this really is a subjective topic) I have Mavic Cosmic Carbone SLE and absolutely love them. 52mm rim, just enough for go faster stripes, but not quite deep enough so that wind is any major issue. But only really start to help when you are getting to +20mph range (i.e enjoy the down hills)

At 16mph you may not get any significant Aero advantage from deeper rims for the money, basically useless up hill at lower speeds anyway, and depending on what you have on currently you may not save weight either.

But, also, your feeling better on the bike also has a net affect to your speed so its not all bad. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Common misconception, but the slower you are the more time you will save over a set distance with aero wheels, the minor weight penalty on hills is insignificant compared to the aero gains. That said, a badly designed deep section front (PX50/82) will be a handfull in windy conditions unless you use it a lot and learn to handle it. This can lead to you not being able to put the power down as you are too busy trying to stay on the road.

The Mavic cosmic carbones seem a popular choice


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The previous posts aren't blank, just press quote and you'll see the text
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flo 60s
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Lanterne_Rouge




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crozza wrote:
Flo 60s
How much are they after import/delivery etc for the pair. Tried to get a price on their site, but on pre order waiting list...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using Mavic Cosmic Carbone. I really like them, they also make a brilliant noise which is important and they stand up to the potholes of London very well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/news/107-50mm-carbon-alloy-clinchers-click-here
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rolortc wrote:
Crozza wrote:
Flo 60s
How much are they after import/delivery etc for the pair. Tried to get a price on their site, but on pre order waiting list...


Came at a bit under 700quid for me with everything.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do the Flo 60's and the Mavic Cosmic Carbones compare?

Also how long did it take after ordering to get your Flo wheels.

I have been looking (procrastinating) for months but every time I get close i just cant justify the money and decide on more training rather than better wheels.

That said, I finish paying for my TT bike this summer so may have the cash to get some wheels. They would be used for Tri's and TTs only. Have looked at a Planet X set, cosmic carbones and the Flo's. Love the look of the Flo's (plus the supporting data) but thought it looked like too much of a faff to get them imported??
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajford1 wrote:
Also how long did it take after ordering to get your Flo wheels.


25th Apr to 12th May - via the cheapest shipping method.

But of course they only go on sale irregularly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't personally tell much difference in handling between these two setups:

1. Disc rear, 90mm front.

2. 90mm rear, 60mm front.

I've seen it argued that having the rear deeper than the front increases the stability of the bike in the wind.

I'll also say that handling issues depend on the specific wheel. The current Jet 9 handles a LOT better in the wind than the older Jet 9. I always use setup 1 for TTs and have ridden TTs where some people really complained about the wind and I didn't notice any wind at all.

So personally I'd be pretty reluctant to not go for a Flo Disc rear + Flo 90 front, but I haven't ridden the courses you'll be using them on to know if I would experience handling problems. In general, the slower you're going, the less of a problem handling is, it's when people are doing 50mph downhill in a gusty crosswind that it gets scary.

And you might only be doing 20mph max on the flat now, but that will hopefully increase when you get some aero wheels.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ain't nothing wrong with my PX 60mm carbon clinchers. 400 all in. Seem well built and have been fine in winds up to 15mph. I'm not sure other 'budget' aero wheels justify the extra expense? I would imagine the real world performance difference would be imperceptible.
Stick the rest in a savings account for when you're ready to buy a TT bike.
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