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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immediately after the race on Saturday Alistair commented that he couldn't get enough nutrition and that he needed more salt & drink. I've looked for the exact quote but unfortunately I can't find it.

My interpretation is that Alistair believes extra salt intake is beneficial?

found it:
"I definitely got something from today, like my nutrition. I couldn't get enough in my stomach and I felt like I didn't have enough salts and fluid in me at the end of the run, which is why I had to back off a bit,"
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think AB's quote can be translated as "Today was a nice training ride, jogged in on the run. I can go way faster if I have to. You guys don't stand a chance."

True? maybe, Trash talk, almost certainly. He has a track record of saying he's not 100%, even when he wins.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As some here know, I'm a severe cramper.

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression

Pretty much the only time I cramp is during racing or during a really hard turbo.

Therefore I have to agree with the insufficient preparation.
You need to try and replicate the racing stress during training.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funkster wrote:

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression


Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guinness worked for me....

When I'd drunk enough of it, it stopped me from reaching any sort of pace where I was likely to get cramp....
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
funkster wrote:

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression


Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


and bananas, or if really in trouble salted bananas in pickle juice. Cured the world's ills.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Jorgan"]
funkster wrote:

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression
[/quote

Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


that reminds me of T1 at IM Switzerland. I came into T1 to my racking spot and there was a guy not far away who cracked open a bottle of dill pickles, ate 2 of them, closed the jar and went on his merry way on the bike. I never did get to understand why, but maybe you have now given me a clue - I just thought he was a bit bonkers!
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="fat buddha"]
Jorgan wrote:
funkster wrote:

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression
[/quote

Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


that reminds me of T1 at IM Switzerland. I came into T1 to my racking spot and there was a guy not far away who cracked open a bottle of dill pickles, ate 2 of them, closed the jar and went on his merry way on the bike. I never did get to understand why, but maybe you have now given me a clue - I just thought he was a bit bonkers!


I'm disappointed that he didn't stick the jar in his bottle cage for on-the-bike nutrition Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat buddha wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
funkster wrote:

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression


Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


that reminds me of T1 at IM Switzerland. I came into T1 to my racking spot and there was a guy not far away who cracked open a bottle of dill pickles, ate 2 of them, closed the jar and went on his merry way on the bike. I never did get to understand why, but maybe you have now given me a clue - I just thought he was a bit bonkers!


Yes, I got the pickle juice from a jar of gherkins. If nothing else, it's something different for the taste buds after 6 hours of sports nutrition.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
fat buddha wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
funkster wrote:

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression


Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


that reminds me of T1 at IM Switzerland. I came into T1 to my racking spot and there was a guy not far away who cracked open a bottle of dill pickles, ate 2 of them, closed the jar and went on his merry way on the bike. I never did get to understand why, but maybe you have now given me a clue - I just thought he was a bit bonkers!


Yes, I got the pickle juice from a jar of gherkins. If nothing else, it's something different for the taste buds after 6 hours of sports nutrition.


chicken soup is the go to item there! first came across that IM Switzerland on the run - it tasted like heaven after hours of sweet, sickly gels and drink. got my missus to carry a thermos of it to give to me at the supporter feed station on the run at IM Wales
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:


Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


Isn't that for when the cramps come though?

Something about interrupting the muscle firing.

Usually just crack a salt capsule in the mouth.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

funkster wrote:
Jorgan wrote:


Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


Isn't that for when the cramps come though?

Something about interrupting the muscle firing.

Usually just crack a salt capsule in the mouth.


Yep, got terrible cramp last year at the 226 on the run. They were no use. Tbh, starting the run far too fast and fighting the wind all day on the bike probably caused them, not salt loss!

Cramps are as a result of muscular fatigue - as we both appear to agree.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat buddha wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
fat buddha wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
funkster wrote:

I've tried most of the "solutions"

- Electolytes
- Calcuim tablets
- Salt capsules
- Sweat analysis
- Compression


Ah, but you haven't tried pickle juice!

Didn't work for me.


that reminds me of T1 at IM Switzerland. I came into T1 to my racking spot and there was a guy not far away who cracked open a bottle of dill pickles, ate 2 of them, closed the jar and went on his merry way on the bike. I never did get to understand why, but maybe you have now given me a clue - I just thought he was a bit bonkers!


Yes, I got the pickle juice from a jar of gherkins. If nothing else, it's something different for the taste buds after 6 hours of sports nutrition.


chicken soup is the go to item there! first came across that IM Switzerland on the run - it tasted like heaven after hours of sweet, sickly gels and drink. got my missus to carry a thermos of it to give to me at the supporter feed station on the run at IM Wales


A guy I know swears by bone broth in endurance cycling events
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