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SophieBHT




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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:52 pm    Post subject: Brighton & Hove Tri to increase LGBT involvement Reply with quote

The Brighton and Hove Triathlon have just partnered with Stonewall, one of the UK's largest and most prominent LGBT charities. Having introduced the world's first inclusive Rainbow Wave in triathlon, we're really passionate about increasing diversity and accessibility within triathlon.

What are all of your thoughts on this?
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It fails utterly at the very beginning:

You try to register to enter:
https://www.resultsbase.net/profile/register?from=%2fevent%2f3626%2fregistration%2fparticipants&eventId=3626

And immediately you have to choose Male or Female.

Appears to be a PR stunt, rather than any actual attempt to be inclusive other than to L and G, groups who are not particularly disadvantaged in Brighton.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really care - but I don't think labelling people according to their sexuality helps anyone in the long run (no pun intended).

Wait - is this a spam post or genuine?
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin Pot wrote:
I don't really care - but I don't think labelling people according to their sexuality helps anyone in the long run (no pun intended).

Wait - is this a spam post or genuine?


it's genuine. there was a LGBT wave at last year's Brighton & Hove Tri
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jibberjim wrote:
It fails utterly at the very beginning:

You try to register to enter:
https://www.resultsbase.net/profile/register?from=%2fevent%2f3626%2fregistration%2fparticipants&eventId=3626

And immediately you have to choose Male or Female.

Appears to be a PR stunt, rather than any actual attempt to be inclusive other than to L and G, groups who are not particularly disadvantaged in Brighton.


Good spot. B & T communities are generally more marginalised than the (now) more mainstream L&G communities. There's almost a complete hierarchy within the LGBT community itself.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Brighton & Hove Tri to increase LGBT involvement Reply with quote

SophieBHT wrote:
The Brighton and Hove Triathlon have just partnered with Stonewall, one of the UK's largest and most prominent LGBT charities. Having introduced the world's first inclusive Rainbow Wave in triathlon, we're really passionate about increasing diversity and accessibility within triathlon.

What are all of your thoughts on this?


My thoughts are that most G&L folks I know already race in tri and cycling. They seem to have the requisite numbers of limbs the same as everyone else and manage to compete without the need to ride a unicorn $h1tt1ng 'look at me' happy glitter.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Brighton & Hove Tri to increase LGBT involvement Reply with quote

FatPom wrote:
SophieBHT wrote:
The Brighton and Hove Triathlon have just partnered with Stonewall, one of the UK's largest and most prominent LGBT charities. Having introduced the world's first inclusive Rainbow Wave in triathlon, we're really passionate about increasing diversity and accessibility within triathlon.

What are all of your thoughts on this?


My thoughts are that most G&L folks I know already race in tri and cycling. They seem to have the requisite numbers of limbs the same as everyone else and manage to compete without the need to ride a unicorn $h1tt1ng 'look at me' happy glitter.


that made me guffive!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Brighton & Hove Tri to increase LGBT involvement Reply with quote

FatPom wrote:
SophieBHT wrote:
The Brighton and Hove Triathlon have just partnered with Stonewall, one of the UK's largest and most prominent LGBT charities. Having introduced the world's first inclusive Rainbow Wave in triathlon, we're really passionate about increasing diversity and accessibility within triathlon.

What are all of your thoughts on this?


My thoughts are that most G&L folks I know already race in tri and cycling. .


ditto...most of my chums don't want special treatment, don't want special pronouns and most don't feel too discriminated against although obviously this is not always the case...
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jgav wrote:
jibberjim wrote:
It fails utterly at the very beginning:

You try to register to enter:
https://www.resultsbase.net/profile/register?from=%2fevent%2f3626%2fregistration%2fparticipants&eventId=3626

And immediately you have to choose Male or Female.

Appears to be a PR stunt, rather than any actual attempt to be inclusive other than to L and G, groups who are not particularly disadvantaged in Brighton.


Good spot. B & T communities are generally more marginalised than the (now) more mainstream L&G communities. There's almost a complete hierarchy within the LGBT community itself.


how are they marginalised?

edited from why to how...
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
how are they marginalised?


A lot of non-binary people don't even have a toilet they can obviously use in many places, and many T's have opposition about the one they do use, for example.

But if we're talking sport, then T is a real problem, you may have absolutely no hope, you may be taking illegal doping that you can't compete with, or you may be taking nothing, but would not be elligible to compete in the class you want to identify in.

What are the rules on this rainbow wave - do you get dispensation for the anti-doping requirements for example?
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jibberjim wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
how are they marginalised?


A lot of non-binary people don't even have a toilet they can obviously use in many places, and many T's have opposition about the one they do use, for example.

But if we're talking sport, then T is a real problem, you may have absolutely no hope, you may be taking illegal doping that you can't compete with, or you may be taking nothing, but would not be elligible to compete in the class you want to identify in.

What are the rules on this rainbow wave - do you get dispensation for the anti-doping requirements for example?


whilst I sympathise with what must be complex feelings, there are a host of non binary categories (I assume the irony in that is non intentional); do they each need separate toilets?

T is a problem that sport will have to address, certainly, and triathlon has, i believe, already had an issue...
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does make the RACE more attractive for grants from lots of sources though.

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Stark wrote:
It does make the club more attractive for grants from lots of sources though.


ah...the cynic returns... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding comment above - the tri is not related or organised by the club (Brighton Tri Club - I'm a member).
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Stark wrote:
It does make the RACE more attractive for grants from lots of sources though.


Sorry, FTFY.
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