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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mortirolo wrote:
SGreg wrote:
There are lots of different IM course with lots of different Profiles, Not all of them are flat, in fact I think more are hilly than really flat. and some are really quite mountainous...Lanza, France spring to mind.

Something to suit everyone!


I was looking at Ironman France, with climbing involved that would suit me down to a tea been a roadie! I wouldn't have to use a TT bike, in fact I ridden some of those climbs they aren't that steep, but some of those decents would be a problem on a TT bike they are reasonably technical. That way I wouldn't have to adjust to a TT bike which I hate more than 50km to be honest. I suppose you going to get a better chance of good weather in Nice. But when it rains in Nice it's in the bucket loads! I think Nice would be hard, sea swim and run but would suit me for my 1st full Ironman rather than Zurich for example where you need a TT bike, maybe after my 1st ironman I could switch to a TT bike for the next one......thinking


you need the TT bike to increase your ability to run - get the set up improved to enable you to train for longer...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wales is a superb race where roadie bike and descending/climbing skills count and negate the need for TT bike/aero bling.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
mortirolo wrote:
SGreg wrote:
There are lots of different IM course with lots of different Profiles, Not all of them are flat, in fact I think more are hilly than really flat. and some are really quite mountainous...Lanza, France spring to mind.

Something to suit everyone!


I was looking at Ironman France, with climbing involved that would suit me down to a tea been a roadie! I wouldn't have to use a TT bike, in fact I ridden some of those climbs they aren't that steep, but some of those decents would be a problem on a TT bike they are reasonably technical. That way I wouldn't have to adjust to a TT bike which I hate more than 50km to be honest. I suppose you going to get a better chance of good weather in Nice. But when it rains in Nice it's in the bucket loads! I think Nice would be hard, sea swim and run but would suit me for my 1st full Ironman rather than Zurich for example where you need a TT bike, maybe after my 1st ironman I could switch to a TT bike for the next one......thinking


you need the TT bike to increase your ability to run - get the set up improved to enable you to train for longer...


"you need the TT bike to increase your ability to run" - I guess you mean saving energy? I mean a TT bike is just to reduce the external factors around you like wind to make you in a more aero position? on climbs or decents TT will not help at all this will be down to weight ratio, wattage ouput and skill. On Flatish courses you will save a load of time on a TT bike!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mortirolo wrote:
explorerJC wrote:


you need the TT bike to increase your ability to run - get the set up improved to enable you to train for longer...


I guess you mean saving energy? I mean a TT bike is just to reduce the external factors around you like wind to make you in a more aero position? on climbs or decents TT will not help at all this will be down to weight ratio, wattage ouput and skill. On Flatish courses you will save a load of time on a TT bike!


The seat angle on a TT bike is different, making them easier to run off (I'll let someone more biologically technical than me explain the difference in how it engages your muscle groups).

TRO Saracen wrote:

Wales is a superb race where roadie bike and descending/climbing skills count and negate the need for TT bike/aero bling.


Quite a lumpy marathon too though!
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