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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Latest Arch 2 Arc ends in tragedy Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-40859655


Tragic. RIP
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very sad. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very sad. I wonder what was happening with his piloting as he seemed to have been going the wrong way?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am totally gutted. Spent several laps with him at Enduroman 2015 where he came 2nd in continuous quin. And it September 2016 where he was crewing for TC at the Brutal.

I love his IM Sweden story. He looked at his bike computer and saw he was on for a 4:40 cycle. He was so stunned he did not look up. The road turned but he did not. He broke an arm and bike handlebars.

He still did a 5 hour cycle and completed the marathon.

Amazing guy.

Perhaps the only consolation was he died doing what he loved.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedro Peru wrote:
Very sad. I wonder what was happening with his piloting as he seemed to have been going the wrong way?


the boat would have been heading back to Dover after picking him up - takes a while for the air ambulance to arrive

as BP says, he died doing something he loved - probably one of the better ways to die imho. RIP
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedro Peru wrote:
Very sad. I wonder what was happening with his piloting as he seemed to have been going the wrong way?


That's the tides taking you up and down. you are going forward but being pushed one way and then back again
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top bloke and perfect ultra triathlete gentleman

#bemoredoug

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harsh news, RIP.

I would've bought this a pretty rare thing with a boat and crew right by him. They must be devastated.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat buddha wrote:
as BP says, he died doing something he loved - probably one of the better ways to die imho. RIP


Yep, people die every day doing what they hate or doing nothing at all. At least he was out doing what he loved. At least he lived first!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a terrible thing to happen, but I also echo what other have said about a sudden death while pursing your passion is possibly not the worst way to go, depending on how it impacts his family and friend.

However, it does make me wonder, has this type of tragedy always happened in ultra endurance sports, or is today's training, both physical and mental, enabling athletes to push themselves right to the limit (and beyond) of our physiological capabilities
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd rather go out doing something i enjoy... very sad, a great athlete
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit dispiriting for the organisers as I believe it is the second death, but to me they have done nothing wrong and I hope they continue and I am sure it will be even safer in the future (not sure it needs to be, but I guess they have to be seen to be doing something).
There is a 100% chance we are all going to die, and personally I would rather go out in a pair of Speedos in the middle of the channel than sitting in a nappy in a nursing home looking at the channel.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
However, it does make me wonder, has this type of tragedy always happened in ultra endurance sports, or is today's training, both physical and mental, enabling athletes to push themselves right to the limit (and beyond) of our physiological capabilities


I guess an Arch 2 Arc attempt is higher risk than a "regular" Channel swim because of the fatigue that the athlete is carrying at the start of the swim. It sounds like he finished his 87 mile run in the evening and then started his swim early the next morning. I thought there was usually a bit more of a lay-over before starting the swim, but I guess if the weather window is right then you have to go.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whisk wrote:
I guess an Arch 2 Arc attempt is higher risk than a "regular" Channel swim because of the fatigue that the athlete is carrying at the start of the swim. It sounds like he finished his 87 mile run in the evening and then started his swim early the next morning. I thought there was usually a bit more of a lay-over before starting the swim, but I guess if the weather window is right then you have to go.


Very sad news. RIP.

I got the impression that there was a limit for how long a rest could be taken between each stage. In the film of John van Wisse's record breaking run it was mentioned as 12hrs between swim and bike(https://vimeo.com/113491266). I was watching it last night randomly (hadn't seen this sad news) and the state of John at the end of the swim leaves an impression. He was going full pelt, but none the less.
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