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J55TTC




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:08 am    Post subject: Bicycle help needed please Reply with quote

Breif history:

Ive done countless sprints, 3/4's half marathons etc from 2010 to 2013.

2013 I completed wimbleball 70.3 despite the poor conditions and severe cramps on the bike. Went on to do much better at Luxembourg 70.3

2014 - work constraints meant it was just a few leisurely events.

2015 - Staffordshire 70.3 on minimal training, using shorter events as primary training. Times were 38 min swim, 3:15 bike 2:10 run. Was happy considering the disjointed training

All of the above on a stock felt AR2.

2016 - 2017 - sold the Felt to fund Golf - no training at all. Just back from watching my wife do Barcelona 140.6 and I'm massively inspired again - she's signed up to Copenhagen 140.6 already for 2018

I couldn't help but notice 99% of the bikes for Barcelona being tri bikes and I'm seriously contemplating Copenhagen 2018 myself.

I have funds for 1 bike around the £3k mark. Interested in peoples thoughts on which route I should go, TT or road?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canyon Aeroad, Giant Propel or similar aero road frame. Then stick some tri bars on it.

98% of the speed (if not more) and 200% more versatile.

Shortly a lot will come and say "fit first" but that wasn't your question. Type of bike first, then colour scheme Smile and then get a fit.

Personally I'd go 2nd hand market and get one of each. Some stonking end-of-season TT bike deals right now, and £1500 gets you a pretty nice 2nd hand road bike as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Chrace, Iíll have a look at those.

I know the regular haunts for bike shopping like Sigma, primera etc but if youíre aware of any good deals Iíd appreciate the heads up.

Second hand is an option
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends whether you want to run off the bike or not...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike fit $200

EBay Carbon road bike... $1000 ....Carbon wheels Ultegra

Ebay Carbon TT bike........$1500...... SRAM red.. The wheels will swop.

Local bike shop $500...... Change bits and bobs to suit.

Go for 10 speed, light use, picking it up will avoid postal stress and make it cheaper as some can't be bothered.

I got a Focus izzalco pro and a Argon 18 E116 both with carbon aero wheels and uprated specs for around your budget.

Di2 was extra.

I am a OK cyclist, 2:35 70.3 bike split ......the rider is definitely the slowest part of these machines.

As JC says one is easier to run off due to seat angles, geometry etc.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again guys. Good points.

I need to go and have a look and research a few bikes. Is di2 retro fittable to most frames these days? Loved the di2 on my AR2
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes
Unless it's very old.

Di2 on a road frame is nice...on a TT bike it's a must have for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mungo wrote:
Yes
Unless it's very old.

Di2 on a road frame is nice...on a TT bike it's a must have for me.


I agree, my old TT bike wasnít di2 and I really regretted it
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.

I have Di2 on the road bike and find it perfect for that. But on the TT it's mechanical and the DA shifters seem exactly as precise. I never have chain rattle on either.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mungo wrote:
Di2 on a road frame is nice...on a TT bike it's a must have for me.


I would have thought logic would dictate the opposite. You are far more likely to be changing gears regularly on a road bike than a TT bike, by virtue of the courses & terrain you use them on. Or is there another reason why you expressed that preference?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Bicycle help needed please Reply with quote

J55TTC wrote:

I have funds for 1 bike around the £3k mark. Interested in peoples thoughts on which route I should go, TT or road?


If your only bike is a TT bike, you are not going to enjoying year-round cycling, trust me. I love ditching my TT bike after my A Race, sitting back up a little and enjoying cycling & the view again.

Obviously my advice would be a good aero-road frame and a flippable seatpost mount for Tri.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found myself thinking how much I would change gear on more technical sections from the bull horn changers. Im just a keen cyclist, not competitive at all. Perhaps this is down to lack of experience but there were times while on the bull horns that Id have to reach over to change gear, often feeling a little more unstable while doing so.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Bicycle help needed please Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
J55TTC wrote:

I have funds for 1 bike around the £3k mark. Interested in peoples thoughts on which route I should go, TT or road?


If your only bike is a TT bike, you are not going to enjoying year-round cycling, trust me. I love ditching my TT bike after my A Race, sitting back up a little and enjoying cycling & the view again.

Obviously my advice would be a good aero-road frame and a flippable seatpost mount for Tri.


I am beginning to think this is the way forward... with a road bike I'm not really bothered about the di2, its just a preference for a TT bike.

My thinking on only getting the TT was to spend a lot of winter on the rollers / turbo and to get really comfortable on it. I'm aiming to finish the IM, a 7 to 7.5 hour cycle will do me just fine. I know what youre going to say, if time isn't an issue just go with a road bike.

Any suggestions on the flippable seatpost mount?

*edit* just wanted to add that many have said if I want to run ok off the bike I need a tri bike. I don't have personal experience with running off the bike after longer rides, when I had a TT bike the longest I did was Oly.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best bike to run off, is a comfortable one.

Ironically, the Felt AR has a reversible seatpost Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bargain?

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/EBPXPEC13U/planet-x-ec-130e-rivet-rider-shimano-ultegra-6800-aero-road-bike
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