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Roscoemck
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| Pedro Peru wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | Hands up, I love supporting Sky when their racing and have always been of the opinion that they do it right.
Until this year. Wiggo's TUE and now this. Makes you really wonder.
What I'm really wondering is.................from day 1 Sky have had a zero tolerance approach. Where does this leave Froome, error or not? |
the same as the rest...on the naughty step for 10 minutes.... |
Even if he gets a ban? That would go against everything they stand/stood for.
Soooooooooo, would that mean a new policy, they'll start hiring anyone?
Saw the news re Disney. Very interesting. Sky are confirmed as sponsors until 2020. Froome's contract runs out then and no apparent successor in place.
Will 2020 be the end of the road? I believe the holding company for Team Sky is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sky, that would mean someone buying the company from Sky if the team was to continue. |
What do they stand for?
If they really had a zero tolerance policy they wouldn't have hired anyone from Rabobank. Even if they hadn't been caught, Rabo were notorious before Rasmussen went to Mexico, I mean Italy. On top of what JibberJim has already pointed out. |
Fair point, they made a total mess of that.
Having a good read at the different opinion today, the consensus seems to be that Brailsford seems to be distancing Sky from Froome in Sky's statement. He appears to be putting the onus on Froome.
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explorerJC
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| Roscoemck wrote: | | Pedro Peru wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | Hands up, I love supporting Sky when their racing and have always been of the opinion that they do it right.
Until this year. Wiggo's TUE and now this. Makes you really wonder.
What I'm really wondering is.................from day 1 Sky have had a zero tolerance approach. Where does this leave Froome, error or not? |
the same as the rest...on the naughty step for 10 minutes.... |
Even if he gets a ban? That would go against everything they stand/stood for.
Soooooooooo, would that mean a new policy, they'll start hiring anyone?
Saw the news re Disney. Very interesting. Sky are confirmed as sponsors until 2020. Froome's contract runs out then and no apparent successor in place.
Will 2020 be the end of the road? I believe the holding company for Team Sky is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sky, that would mean someone buying the company from Sky if the team was to continue. |
What do they stand for?
If they really had a zero tolerance policy they wouldn't have hired anyone from Rabobank. Even if they hadn't been caught, Rabo were notorious before Rasmussen went to Mexico, I mean Italy. On top of what JibberJim has already pointed out. |
Fair point, they made a total mess of that.
Having a good read at the different opinion today, the consensus seems to be that Brailsford seems to be distancing Sky from Froome in Sky's statement. He appears to be putting the onus on Froome. |
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Chrace
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | | Pedro Peru wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | Hands up, I love supporting Sky when their racing and have always been of the opinion that they do it right.
Until this year. Wiggo's TUE and now this. Makes you really wonder.
What I'm really wondering is.................from day 1 Sky have had a zero tolerance approach. Where does this leave Froome, error or not? |
the same as the rest...on the naughty step for 10 minutes.... |
Even if he gets a ban? That would go against everything they stand/stood for.
Soooooooooo, would that mean a new policy, they'll start hiring anyone?
Saw the news re Disney. Very interesting. Sky are confirmed as sponsors until 2020. Froome's contract runs out then and no apparent successor in place.
Will 2020 be the end of the road? I believe the holding company for Team Sky is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sky, that would mean someone buying the company from Sky if the team was to continue. |
What do they stand for?
If they really had a zero tolerance policy they wouldn't have hired anyone from Rabobank. Even if they hadn't been caught, Rabo were notorious before Rasmussen went to Mexico, I mean Italy. On top of what JibberJim has already pointed out. |
Fair point, they made a total mess of that.
Having a good read at the different opinion today, the consensus seems to be that Brailsford seems to be distancing Sky from Froome in Sky's statement. He appears to be putting the onus on Froome. |
the mark of a true leader... |
I have a lot more doubt about Brailsford than Froome...
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explorerJC
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Chrace wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | | Pedro Peru wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | Hands up, I love supporting Sky when their racing and have always been of the opinion that they do it right.
Until this year. Wiggo's TUE and now this. Makes you really wonder.
What I'm really wondering is.................from day 1 Sky have had a zero tolerance approach. Where does this leave Froome, error or not? |
the same as the rest...on the naughty step for 10 minutes.... |
Even if he gets a ban? That would go against everything they stand/stood for.
Soooooooooo, would that mean a new policy, they'll start hiring anyone?
Saw the news re Disney. Very interesting. Sky are confirmed as sponsors until 2020. Froome's contract runs out then and no apparent successor in place.
Will 2020 be the end of the road? I believe the holding company for Team Sky is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sky, that would mean someone buying the company from Sky if the team was to continue. |
What do they stand for?
If they really had a zero tolerance policy they wouldn't have hired anyone from Rabobank. Even if they hadn't been caught, Rabo were notorious before Rasmussen went to Mexico, I mean Italy. On top of what JibberJim has already pointed out. |
Fair point, they made a total mess of that.
Having a good read at the different opinion today, the consensus seems to be that Brailsford seems to be distancing Sky from Froome in Sky's statement. He appears to be putting the onus on Froome. |
the mark of a true leader... |
I have a lot more doubt about Brailsford than Froome... |
likewise..
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JamieMcP
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I don't think there is much love lost between Froom and Dave. Rember how Frome distanced himself after Jiffygate
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Buzz_
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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So Froome submits himself to testing, creates enough doubt that some people will believe him. But UCI still strip him of the Vuelta and give him a 6 month ban - back dated so he can still ride the Giro.
Sky sack him, but plenty of other teams are happy to take him on, he just has to take a pay cut.
Sky trumpet their 'clean at all costs' credentials and promote G to leader for the Giro. Press goes mad for battle of the Brits, good v. evil. Both crash-out in week 1 and everyone goes back to ignoring cycling until the next Olympics.
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Roscoemck
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Now Froomey hires Bruyneel and Contador's lawyer.
Who the actual F is advising him? You could not make this up.
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explorerJC
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JamieMcP
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| explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | Now Froomey hires Bruyneel and Contador's lawyer.
Who the actual F is advising him? You could not make this up. |
Not sure you should judge a lawyer by his former customers.... |
Possibly means he is not that great a lawyer
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jibberjim
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| Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| JamieMcP wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | Now Froomey hires Bruyneel and Contador's lawyer.
Who the actual F is advising him? You could not make this up. |
Not sure you should judge a lawyer by his former customers.... |
Possibly means he is not that great a lawyer |
Got Armistead off didn't he?
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explorerJC
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JamieMcP
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| jibberjim wrote: | | JamieMcP wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | Roscoemck wrote: | Now Froomey hires Bruyneel and Contador's lawyer.
Who the actual F is advising him? You could not make this up. |
Not sure you should judge a lawyer by his former customers.... |
Possibly means he is not that great a lawyer |
Got Armistead off didn't he? |
I didn't know that, so he might not be so bad after all.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out
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Buzz_
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| explorerJC wrote: | | At least we've been spared Froome wheezing as he went to accept a SPOTY award.... |
I suspect in an odd way Froome's indiscretion helped Mo as it transferred a number of endurance votes from cycling to running. Although I'm amazed from the full voting figures that Froome's vote did not collapse completely.
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explorerJC
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Buzz_ wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | At least we've been spared Froome wheezing as he went to accept a SPOTY award.... |
I suspect in an odd way Froome's indiscretion helped Mo as it transferred a number of endurance votes from cycling to running. Although I'm amazed from the full voting figures that Froome's vote did not collapse completely. |
Hammerer has multiple phones and I am sure accounts for several of the votes...
That said, i actually have no idea how the vote system works...is it on-line yet and open to Russian influence?
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Pedro Peru
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| Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| explorerJC wrote: | | Buzz_ wrote: | | explorerJC wrote: | | At least we've been spared Froome wheezing as he went to accept a SPOTY award.... |
I suspect in an odd way Froome's indiscretion helped Mo as it transferred a number of endurance votes from cycling to running. Although I'm amazed from the full voting figures that Froome's vote did not collapse completely. |
Hammerer has multiple phones and I am sure accounts for several of the votes...
That said, i actually have no idea how the vote system works...is it on-line yet and open to Russian influence? |
I don't think so but Maria Sharapova came 2nd
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