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TRO Saracen




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheezy wrote:
TRO Saracen wrote:
Targets:



Wow! Look good. How are you going to combine the top end VO2 max type training to go sub 20 with your ironman training?


Not really training specifically for the 10 TT's. The attempts will be early in the season - April/May/June and will occur around the 'build' part of my training programme so expecting to substitute these attempts with similar sessions in the programme.

I'll need a perfect storm of riding well on a fast day/fast course (I did not get this combo in 2017).

Plenty of time after for the real endurance/IM specific block.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
Targets:

Sub 20mins 10 mile TT
LCW 1:05/5:45/3:30
Sub 11:00 at IM Wales
Sub 9:45 at IM Florida and KQ
Sub 3:50 100 mile TT

There's really some sub targets that will tell me I'm on track:
4w/kg FTP
Weight <70kg
10k run sub 39:30
Half marathon sub 1:28
400m swim time sub 6:30


That TT time would be massively impressive... I wouldn't even know where to start trying to achieve 30mph average over 10 miles.

Other than that I am pretty much with you on my sub targets
4w/kg ftp
Weight <68kg
10k run sub 40
Half Marathon sub 1:23
Marathon sub 3:15
400m swim sub 7
100km ride sub 2:30
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under 11 hours at IM Wales...did 11:20 in 2015
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continue last years form and add some more age group trophies to the collection.

Complete the 200 mile sportive I have entered in under 11 hours

Eat less chocolate....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
TRO Saracen wrote:
Targets:

Sub 20mins 10 mile TT
LCW 1:05/5:45/3:30
Sub 11:00 at IM Wales
Sub 9:45 at IM Florida and KQ
Sub 3:50 100 mile TT

There's really some sub targets that will tell me I'm on track:
4w/kg FTP
Weight <70kg
10k run sub 39:30
Half marathon sub 1:28
400m swim time sub 6:30


That TT time would be massively impressive... I wouldn't even know where to start trying to achieve 30mph average over 10 miles.

Other than that I am pretty much with you on my sub targets
4w/kg ftp
Weight <68kg
10k run sub 40
Half Marathon sub 1:23
Marathon sub 3:15
400m swim sub 7
100km ride sub 2:30


4w/kg FTP is a good start - I have a 20:38 PB from when my FTP was around 3.7-3.8, so I think 4w/kg is around the ball park I need. Rest of it is getting very aero on the bike, getting a ride on a fast course (E2/10, V718), turning up and finding conditions favourable and then riding well.

Conditions are a HUGE factor, I rode 3 10's last year on fast courses at around 10W higher than the 20:38 but conditions were not good and I got a 20:54 and a couple around 21:15-21:20.

The 20:38 was a proper float day - I was putting out mid 21's all year and rode this event at a similar power, so nothing really to suggest PB pace, remember getting to the turn and wondering whether my Garmin had cut out or something as I was not expecting to be anywhere near the turn at that time....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:

Other than that I am pretty much with you on my sub targets
4w/kg ftp
Weight <68kg
10k run sub 40
Half Marathon sub 1:23
Marathon sub 3:15
400m swim sub 7
100km ride sub 2:30

The outlier there seems to be the HM. If you are running sub 1:23, then surely you can go well below 40mins for 10k (under 1:23 is comfortably faster than 40min 10k pace for more than double the distance), and I would also have thought you'd go quite a bit faster for the marathon, so long as you do the distance work?

The latter is definitely true for me (I did 3:04 in my first mara off a 1:25 HM*), although I'm the same as you for 10k with current pbs of 17:27 for 5k and 1:22:56 for HM, yet only 39:11 for 10k. I'd say that's simply down to not targeting a proper 10k though.

*my point about distance work is important though - my mara off the back of the sub1:23 was 3:25 due to a lack of long runs / niggling injury
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stenard wrote:
mattsurf wrote:

Other than that I am pretty much with you on my sub targets
4w/kg ftp
Weight <68kg
10k run sub 40
Half Marathon sub 1:23
Marathon sub 3:15
400m swim sub 7
100km ride sub 2:30

The outlier there seems to be the HM. If you are running sub 1:23, then surely you can go well below 40mins for 10k (under 1:23 is comfortably faster than 40min 10k pace for more than double the distance), and I would also have thought you'd go quite a bit faster for the marathon, so long as you do the distance work?

The latter is definitely true for me (I did 3:04 in my first mara off a 1:25 HM*), although I'm the same as you for 10k with current pbs of 17:27 for 5k and 1:22:56 for HM, yet only 39:11 for 10k. I'd say that's simply down to not targeting a proper 10k though.

*my point about distance work is important though - my mara off the back of the sub1:23 was 3:25 due to a lack of long runs / niggling injury


I clearly need to work on my bike position, before Christmas I was at 3.7w/kg and no where even close to your TT pace.

I did a 1:28 HM last year, and was on course for a 1:24 after 12km, but then had a bad 5k before recovering towards the end, my splits were around 19:45 for 5k and 40:10 for 10k, But you make a good point, maybe a 1:25 HM is a little more realistic

My 5k PB is 18:56, never really run a 10k race before, other than one really hilly x-country or as part of an OD Tri, I like the idea of a sub 40m 10k.

For most of last year (roughly 5 months) I suffered different injuries, so my mara PB remains 3:30 on a tough course, when I was less fit. At Christmas I ran a 22:30 park run, it was my first "fast" effort since May, so lots of work to do
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looking to complete some training programmes consistently and finish the half in July.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not planned in any races this year beyond Feb, but my plan is to be unplanned if that makes sense. Just enjoy the training and do whatever races take my fancy, with a few weeks/months of specific work as necessary per target on top of a (hopefully) consistent base.

I have some random targets, none (beyond #1) are fixed, but they're stuff i would like to achieve in the next few years.

#1 <24 on my 100 miler in 5 weeks time.

#2 Get the sub 35 10km monkey off my back - i've been in plenty good enough shape for this in the past, but always seem to have a cr*p race when it comes to it.

#3 Have another crack at a <75 half

#4 <16.30 5km

#5 A few top 10s at some local trail races

#6 <9.15 for a track 3km

#7 Actually ride my bike

#8 Try and find time for a late season sprint or oly
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good targets GB, are you going to try the extreme mileage again, or a bit more quality and rest? Once the Ultra is over.

Jeff
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My target is to increase both frequency and volume over 2016/2017. This would mean...:
- Train at least twice per week.
- Do an actual training swim, not just swim at the events.
- Run more than 10 times before Triathlon X in June, with at least one of them longer than 10k.

Measurable targets are
- complete Triathlon X in June
- complete Bearman in September
- brownie points allowing, complete Half X in September

New job and small children means be humble.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffB wrote:
Some good targets GB, are you going to try the extreme mileage again, or a bit more quality and rest? Once the Ultra is over.

Jeff


Definitely quality this time jeff. I'm still a bit scarred from my high mileage foray. I think it was a bit of a one off where the planets of time and energy aligned perfectly. New job, doing up the house etc means i just can't fit that sort of volume in anymore, so back to the harder stuff i think (which is more relevant for the shorter distances).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its great to read other hopes and aspirations. 2018 is my first year back in triathlon for 4 years and i've only just got back in the pool, but i'm confident in where i'm at.

1. Absoultely to PB at 10/25 and 50 mile TT's. Ideally a 20min 10 in the process.

2. Sub 5 hours at IM 70.3 Edinburgh

3. To keep swimming throughout the season (I always drop it off!)

4. Not to race my bike and thus avoid crashing and missing all season.

5. Ride on the track at least once a week during track off season

6. Top 10 at the Braveheart Triathlon in September.

Aim high and all that! Good luck folks, it will be good to see how this thread pans out!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pass the track accreditation at Derby Velodrome
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyS.. wrote:
Get into the 22 minutes for 5k. If that works out, get under 20.


22:52 today. Hurrah. The next bit might take more than six days.
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