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TRO Saracen




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All races I have done with this service have bought unused and empty bottles back to HQ after.

You'll have to wait as they obviously won't be nack at HQ until after the last rider is through.

In other news a potentially fast 50 - on E2/50 with conditions looking good up for me this weekend. I'm off at 6:26am, so no traffic help however.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
All races I have done with this service have bought unused and empty bottles back to HQ after.

You'll have to wait as they obviously won't be nack at HQ until after the last rider is through.

In other news a potentially fast 50 - on E2/50 with conditions looking good up for me this weekend. I'm off at 6:26am, so no traffic help however.


Nice, good luck Smile

I sometimes have a look on the TimeTrial Forum (then immediately wish I hadn't!). Saw the bun fight about increased levies and some folks referring to 'TLI', they seem to have a few events on. Are they in the same space as CTT?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, TT done. I'll no doubt write up a full report at some point.

I did 4:43:32 on a course with roughly 1200m of elevation. Not sure if that's a lot or not over a 100?
https://www.strava.com/activities/1719637682

As mentioned at the outset, it was more an IM simulation than going for a ultimate best 100. I don't have a skin suit, and just wore a club cycle jersey, so not particularly aero. I did have disc, aero helmet etc though.

I think I was quite conservative. I actually finished saying to myself I probably needed to dial it back a little bit further in the IM, although having now looked through the progression of the ride a bit more, I got faster and faster as the ride went on (despite feeling worser and worser!) so that would suggest I was definitely not on the limit. Unlike my 50 before Mallorca 70.3, the legs also felt pretty reasonable and I ran later in the day with no problem.

These are my times on the 5 main laps:

The first 4 laps were all in the 173-176w AP range per strava. The last lap was 186w.

177AP / 185NP overall, meaning 0.73 IF. Definitely quite a bit under what JeffB and Jim suggested should be achievable.

I also overstocked on fluid. They had an issue with the numbers meaning they arrived late, so I didnt have time to implement my plan of stashing emergency fluid as I was stuck around HQ for a lot longer than planned. It meant I got nervous and took as much fluid as I could carry. I ended up with over a litre left untouched.

Pretty pleased actually. I'll take that kind of speed in my IM. With the benefit of faster roads in Denmark, and less elevation, I should be able to go a little bit faster for similar effort I would have thought. Best bike split had predicted 4:50 for yesterday (assuming 186 AP, 190 NP), but I have had a re-fit and got a bit lower since I last ran the aero analyser, so probably a small cda improvement there to justify the faster time off less power. BBS has me as 5:20ish for 175w in Copenhagen, which I'd take. The only worry is holding position. Yesterday I was kind of liking the main inclines as a brief change.

As ever, a very humbling experience. I see the name Pat Wright at almost every TT I do and I can see from strava he won in c3:45. 43km/h average speed Shocked Even more eye opening (to me) was a guy from my tri club doing 4:09. Super fast when you're not an out and out TT specialist ... he is going to Kona for the second time though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good time Stenard, well done, most testers would class that course as mountainous with 1150M of climbing. What were road surfaces like, they make quite a difference with the rolling resistance.

Held the power well as well so good pacing, and if you were carrying more weight up the hills.

5:20 should easily be possible in Denmark, although there was a bit of a headwind last year apparently.

As far as the fast guys go, Marcin broke the 50 comp record yesterday, 1:30:31, knocked about 6 minutes off it. >33mph, not sure how that is possible. Although he was second in the recent Polish TT champs, not far behind the winner who was also 6th in the Olympics. Makes it a bit hard for genuine amateurs when he's essentially an ex-pro.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent work Stenard, well done mate Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffB wrote:
That's a good time Stenard, well done, most testers would class that course as mountainous with 1150M of climbing. What were road surfaces like, they make quite a difference with the rolling resistance.

Thanks. Pretty decent actually. Better than I thought. Probably another reason for the faster time compared to the BBS predictions as I selected "poor" rather than "average" to be conservative.

There was only one real section where it was properly horrible, and that was on the main little climb of each lap, so you were going fairly slowly anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

22;30 on the P140 tonight. A PB Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work Stenard, FatPom!

My 'fast 50' ended with 12 miles or so of '1:50 could be on' followed by a pssssss and the trudge of shame back to HQ...

Marcin rode 1:30:31, a 3 minute national record, and most folk thought it was not a real quick day, described as a 'dead' day, thick heavy treacly air.

I went home and did 3 hours on the turbo.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Stenard, well done mate. I rode that event a couple of years ago and itís an absolute dog of a course. Doubt I would ever ride it again although a few club mates rode it on Sunday too, with varying degrees of success. All looking good for your IM 👍

FatPom, cracking time. Well done.👍

Tro, bah, that sucks. Next time!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Wheezy, I was surprised about my time as it wasn't a night you would have picked for a quick one.

TRO, that's too bad mate. When you say 'the trudge of shame', does that mean you had a spare tube and just cruised back?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FatPom wrote:
Cheers Wheezy, I was surprised about my time as it wasn't a night you would have picked for a quick one.

TRO, that's too bad mate. When you say 'the trudge of shame', does that mean you had a spare tube and just cruised back?


No, riding tubs so trundled back on the flat at about 3 mph (smooth road surface so no harm done). Lucky that the course had a 5 mile out and back to start so I'd only passed the start by about 2 miles when the blowout happened. Ridden E2 many times, never punctured on it before.

Rode club TT last night and I was gash. 20w off target 25 mile power for a 10... Rolling Eyes ....shouts 'have a couple of rest days' very loudly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
FatPom wrote:
Cheers Wheezy, I was surprised about my time as it wasn't a night you would have picked for a quick one.

TRO, that's too bad mate. When you say 'the trudge of shame', does that mean you had a spare tube and just cruised back?


No, riding tubs so trundled back on the flat at about 3 mph (smooth road surface so no harm done). Lucky that the course had a 5 mile out and back to start so I'd only passed the start by about 2 miles when the blowout happened. Ridden E2 many times, never punctured on it before.

Rode club TT last night and I was gash. 20w off target 25 mile power for a 10... Rolling Eyes ....shouts 'have a couple of rest days' very loudly.


bad luck mate. Yeah I hear ya, we see the 'listen to your body' mantra written so many times but I'm as guilty as anyone else of ignoring it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I had my couple of rest days Fri/Sat and rode E2/25 yesterday.

Filthy day (drought my a%se.... Rolling Eyes ), wind a little strong for dual carriageway riding with 808/disc and I was 10w off target, but pretty happy with 54:01.

Breckland 12 hour next weekend...my a%se is looking forward to it Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
Well I had my couple of rest days Fri/Sat and rode E2/25 yesterday.

Filthy day (drought my a%se.... Rolling Eyes ), wind a little strong for dual carriageway riding with 808/disc and I was 10w off target, but pretty happy with 54:01.

Breckland 12 hour next weekend...my a%se is looking forward to it Twisted Evil


Great time mate, especially with the 'somewhat breezy' conditions!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks - to be honest I think it was mainly cross winds so I did not lose too much time, just a few wobbles going from sheltered to non sheltered bits.

That wind coming directly from the usual direction of South Westerly would have been a different ball game - a brutal grind out managing perhaps 20 mph then spinning out at 30mph+ coming back wishing I had a 64 front ring....think I managed a 5 mile stretch at 33mph once Very Happy
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