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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing has happened yet so there can't be any evidence.

But Google it, IDS talked about getting rid of red tape and it was one of the main Brexit selling points although there was no further information other than catchy sound-bites.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where is the evidence for this?


That never stopped either side in the Referendum campaign Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyS.. wrote:
Nothing has happened yet so there can't be any evidence.

But Google it, IDS talked about getting rid of red tape and it was one of the main Brexit selling points although there was no further information other than catchy sound-bites.


so it is a guess

i think it highly unlikely that working conditions will become like a Singapore sweat shop...but we could really do with some relaxation on employment laws which cripple small businesses...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't the references to Singapore more in relation to financial services? Less regulation of financial markets - what could possibly go wrong? Rolling Eyes Wink

Whatever the ultimate form of Brexit (if at all), lots of the big banks have already started moving operations from London to Dublin, Frankfurt and Paris to avoid any loss of passporting rights after we leave the EU.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
like a Singapore sweat shop...but we could really do with some relaxation on employment laws which cripple small businesses...


...and it's those sweatshops that produce all that cheap Chinese stuff we live off; I'd imagine Singapore was pretty good by comparison!

Interestingly though, if you'll indulge me; have you noticed how the high-end wetsuits made in the far east are just as expensive as the high-end ones made here in the UK...but the quality is way less. So yeah, we should support UK business more in many instances. At the same time, I do wonder how Trump's protectionism will work out, as far as how tolerant Americans will be to potential price rises, as a result of buying home-grown.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if we don't leave the EU, i will be moving to France i think...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if we don't leave the EU, i will be moving to France i think...


Isn't that where many of the Baby Boomers who voted Leave live; that or Spain Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if we don't leave the EU, i will be moving to France i think...

And there was me thinking France was part of the EU.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
if we don't leave the EU, i will be moving to France i think...


Isn't that where many of the Baby Boomers who voted Leave live; that or Spain Wink


i am on the cusp of baby boomer and gen x.

My friends in france are mainly french, not ex pats, and as a european i'd rather see out the mess there than continue to support the elitist ideology from such a hard place to run a small business...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyS.. wrote:
I see civil unrest on the horizon, especially if there's a second referendum and that says to stay in the EU.

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its certainly possible, though the police can deal with that.

What worries me is that this is a second example of how our government are, through thoughtlessness, inducing fear and disharmony into our society.

If anyone else did it they would be called terrorists.

Again this illustrates the importance of wisdom in government. Where things arenít ruled by personal career enhancement objectives and decisions are considered based on a wide experience base.

Politics isnít a game. It enables or destroys countries.

But what the heck do I know.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buzz_ wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
if we don't leave the EU, i will be moving to France i think...

And there was me thinking France was part of the EU.


and?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
My friends in france are mainly french, not ex pats, and as a european i'd rather see out the mess there than continue to support the elitist ideology from such a hard place to run a small business...


Hmm, so you'd rather be outside the box pi$$ing in, much like our favourite TT expat?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
My friends in france are mainly french, not ex pats, and as a european i'd rather see out the mess there than continue to support the elitist ideology from such a hard place to run a small business...


Hmm, so you'd rather be outside the box pi$$ing in, much like our favourite TT expat?
sometimes being outwith can help you see the wood from the trees as groupthink doesnít hinder you.

For me no one can say that I havent in the past, nor funnily enough currently, tried to make positive change from within. But there is only so much you can do if people donít want you ę†in†Ľ.

Historically though many progressive positive changes have happened because of those on the outside. There are good reasons why cliques can fail to see clearly. Itís a matter of perspective, combined with group think.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
My friends in france are mainly french, not ex pats, and as a european i'd rather see out the mess there than continue to support the elitist ideology from such a hard place to run a small business...


Hmm, so you'd rather be outside the box pi$$ing in, much like our favourite TT expat?


you seem quite determined to continue the ad hominem comments rather than debating or addressing why my position is not a reasonable one to take.

I am simply not a fan of neoliberal elitism...the behaviour of the EU, particularly since 92, has been dismal...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
My friends in france are mainly french, not ex pats, and as a european i'd rather see out the mess there than continue to support the elitist ideology from such a hard place to run a small business...


Hmm, so you'd rather be outside the box pi$$ing in, much like our favourite TT expat?


you seem quite determined to continue the ad hominem comments rather than debating or addressing why my position is not a reasonable one to take.

I am simply not a fan of neoliberal elitism...the behaviour of the EU, particularly since 92, has been dismal...


...so why would you move to a country inextricably linked to all that is bureaucratic and inertial in the EU Question Are you not willing to accept the irony of it? Using Latin won't change that Smile

Do you foresee running a small business becoming easier under a meaningful Brexit, and more like it is in France, because you see it as more favourable there? Despite the fact it's one of the EU powerhouses. Or something else? Can you clarify, because I'm not clear on the logic. Rather I'm sensing a 'Cake & Eat it' scenario, and I refer you back to my comments about expats.
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