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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:09 pm    Post subject: Marathon Fraud Reply with quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44564612
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London Marathon cheat Stanislaw Skupian jailed for fraud


A jail sentence seems a bit harsh, but now the precedent has been set can we at least get the same punishment applied to drafters ? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely the guy who didnít finish but got £49k sponsorship should be done for fraud.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, 13 weeks in jail for finding a number that's fallen off another runner and running across the finish line Shocked The penalty seems disproportionate for the offence.

Someone I know created a fake number, used someone else's real entry to blag a "replacement" timing chip from the expo and ran the whole race. He'd be on for a 10 year stretch if he got caught Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, 13 weeks in jail for finding a number that's fallen off another runner and running across the finish line Shocked The penalty seems disproportionate for the offence.


Especially when you take into account the three weeks for three thefts. I know which crime I'd prefer to see punished more heavily
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symes wrote:
Whisk wrote:
Wow, 13 weeks in jail for finding a number that's fallen off another runner and running across the finish line Shocked The penalty seems disproportionate for the offence.


Especially when you take into account the three weeks for three thefts. I know which crime I'd prefer to see punished more heavily

That is literally utter madness. The disparity between those sentences makes our sentencing system somewhat laughable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symes wrote:
Whisk wrote:
Wow, 13 weeks in jail for finding a number that's fallen off another runner and running across the finish line Shocked The penalty seems disproportionate for the offence.


Especially when you take into account the three weeks for three thefts. I know which crime I'd prefer to see punished more heavily


you have to be pretty dumb to get caught these days....apparently only 5% of crimes are punished now iirc from last weekend's news..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living in an airport would be a fairly good way to get caught.

I suspect the judge was considering all the offences when he decided the sentencing. Having a primary school ID card on you is not an indication of good character.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iaincognito wrote:
Surely the guy who didnít finish but got £49k sponsorship should be done for fraud.


You could suggest that to the DM Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do we stand on people wearing Ironman merchandise when they haven't done the full 140.6? What about wearing replica football shirts? They're the same thing, and yet one is obviously more 'misleading' than the other.

Must be a slow news day....
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Where do we stand on people wearing Ironman merchandise when they haven't done the full 140.6?


On their heads Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fruit thief wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Where do we stand on people wearing Ironman merchandise when they haven't done the full 140.6?


On their heads Wink


Or anyone wearing TdF team gear ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrahamO wrote:
fruit thief wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Where do we stand on people wearing Ironman merchandise when they haven't done the full 140.6?


On their heads Wink


Or anyone wearing TdF team gear ?


The assumption with replica kit is almost always that you're not a pro though.

Incidentally, wearing military uniforms and medals you're not entitled to, is actually an offence under UK law. A few 'walts' have been caught out on that one; but then they are the ones who have just created very conspicuous personas.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrahamO wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Where do we stand on ... wearing replica football shirts??

Or anyone wearing TdF team gear ?

The former is culturally standard globally. There's no false representation there. And for that reason, I've said before, I don't really see the issue in a cycling context either.

I ride in plain kit, or my club kit. Yet I have a Team GB jersey I wore when supporting the Olympics on Box Hill in 2012, and I have a couple of TdF supporters jerseys I have worn when going to certain stages of the Tour in France. I really don't see the issue.

I totally get the no-pro team kit requirements for things like road races, CTT events etc, as those are actual "races" where legitimate pro team riders could technically race. But the derision cast over cyclists who choose to wear team kit on a weekend social ride is totally unjustified. Most will be newer riders, who've got into the sport through following on TV, and have chosen to take that support out onto the road. Given the football/rugby/cricket culture where wearing club shirts is almost standard, doing the same for cycling would seem almost logical to most.

We should be encouraging them and guiding them towards joining local clubs (where they then might buy a local club jersey), not pointing and laughing at them for breaking some psuedo-cycling only taboo.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a Team GB jersey I wore when supporting the Olympics on Box Hill in 2012


A good friend of mine competed for GB at the 2000, 2004 and 2008 Olympics and she was very much against the fact that Adidas were selling full replica team kit ahead of 2012. For her, part of the Olympic experience was collecting your Olympic kit having worked hard for 4 years and earned the right to wear it. The fact that anyone could go into a shop and buy the same kit devalued it for her somehow.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whisk wrote:
stenard wrote:
I have a Team GB jersey I wore when supporting the Olympics on Box Hill in 2012


A good friend of mine competed for GB at the 2000, 2004 and 2008 Olympics and she was very much against the fact that Adidas were selling full replica team kit ahead of 2012. For her, part of the Olympic experience was collecting your Olympic kit having worked hard for 4 years and earned the right to wear it. The fact that anyone could go into a shop and buy the same kit devalued it for her somehow.


I often see Team GB Olympic replica kit; normally it's obvious this is just merchandise, but it is a shame for people like your friend.
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