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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably something in that. Not cost for the competitor, but for the organiser.

There can't be much difference between the costs for putting on an Oly v. Half, yet you can charge more than 2x for an entry fee. If you are doing shorter races you tend to race more often and be more cost sensitive, so entry fees and overnight stays will affect the choice of events. The half might be your 1 main race for the year (or one warm up for a full IM) so people are prepared to spend a bit more?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
some of the comments about "not being an Ironman" are getting a bit nasty now. I think that the admins have done another purge, banning people

This Ryan Rookie guy does talk some sense, hope he has not been banned

Given the level of meltdown following a 17 mile course shortening, What will happen if the swim is cancelled


😂 he should still be there
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile there’s a defamation case building on IMJ for the other Rookie.

Something about enjoying others misfortune.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buzz_ wrote:
Isn't ITU Long course a 4K swim and shorter bike/run?


just come back from the ITU Long Distance world champs in Denmark (I was on the Official's team).

it was a 3k swim, 121k bike, and 30k run which is pretty usual for an ITU LD event - sometimes the swim length will be 4k but the others are usually set around the 120k and 30k mark.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now it has become the IM tatoo journey
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
And now it has become the IM tatoo journey


Wait, people have gone and got tattoos after completing a race with a 95 mile bike course? Wink Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whisk wrote:
mattsurf wrote:
And now it has become the IM tatoo journey


Wait, people have gone and got tattoos after completing a race with a 95 mile bike course? Wink Rolling Eyes


It's fine as long as they have a corner chipped off the M somewhere! Or maybe the actual distance marked - 2.4 - 95 - 25

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGreg wrote:

It's fine as long as they have a corner chipped off the M somewhere! Or maybe the actual distance marked - 2.4 - 95 - 25
Laughing


...In all seriousness, the swim times looked quite slow and the run times quite fast - is the swim long and run *that* short?

Or, is 17 miles less cycling really that much better for your run?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the guys from our club who KQ'd had it at 42.16, so doesnt seem short.

In addition, he and most others, said they seemed about 5 minutes off their target swim times. So something did appear off there, be that distance or conditions.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stenard wrote:
One of the guys from our club who KQ'd had it at 42.16, so doesnt seem short.

In addition, he and most others, said they seemed about 5 minutes off their target swim times. So something did appear off there, be that distance or conditions.


Maybe it was the viscosity of all that algae
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, my comment was merely based on the fact the run course used to be really short I was under the impression that was fixed a while ago. Just having a cheeky dig Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stenard wrote:
One of the guys from our club who KQ'd had it at 42.16, so doesnt seem short.

In addition, he and most others, said they seemed about 5 minutes off their target swim times. So something did appear off there, be that distance or conditions.


Same thing said last year.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny how people who are average swimmers in the pool always moan the race is long. Wonder if its becasue they either dont train enough, dont practise OW skills or swim in a zig zag the whole way.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poet. wrote:
SGreg wrote:

It's fine as long as they have a corner chipped off the M somewhere! Or maybe the actual distance marked - 2.4 - 95 - 25
Laughing


...In all seriousness, the swim times looked quite slow and the run times quite fast - is the swim long and run *that* short?

Or, is 17 miles less cycling really that much better for your run?


17 miles off the bike makes a huge difference...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Poet. wrote:
SGreg wrote:

It's fine as long as they have a corner chipped off the M somewhere! Or maybe the actual distance marked - 2.4 - 95 - 25
Laughing


...In all seriousness, the swim times looked quite slow and the run times quite fast - is the swim long and run *that* short?

Or, is 17 miles less cycling really that much better for your run?


17 miles off the bike makes a huge difference...


Probably an hour less time on the bike for most people. I can't remember any of my IMs where I wouldn't have happily got off the bike 17 miles early Wink
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