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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject: Best Swim, Bike & Run courses? Reply with quote

Has this ever been discussed here? For events still in existence. My votes based on 26 years experience:

Swim
IM Austria
Perranporth Extreme Surf Tri Rolling Eyes Wink

Bike
IM70.3 St Polten (AUT)
Mondsee Triathlon (AUT)

Run
IM Regensburg (now Challenge)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting idea for a thread. I definitely don't have that level of experience!

Would it help if you were to explain why you think those courses are the "best" in your opinion? Adds some context
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stenard wrote:
Interesting idea for a thread. I definitely don't have that level of experience!

Would it help if you were to explain why you think those courses are the "best" in your opinion? Adds some context


IM Austria Swim: just search for it on Youtube, some great videos (particularly in the good-old mass start days). It's a stunning lake, clear water and the canal bit at the end.

Perranporth Swim: well some years it's just f'ing nuts with the surf & subsequent run up the beach Smile

70.3 St Polten Bike: very varied scenery, Autobahn for 20km, then up through vineyards overlooking the Danube, then back down & along the banks of the Danube, up & over a longish steady climb, lovely fast wide descent, into very nice rolling countryside back to the finish. Roads very smooth. Single Lap.

Regensburg Run: nice flat 4-lap course through the old town, then the park, and then along beside the Danube back into old town. Varied, well shaded in the main, nice scenery.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norseman swim - Jump off the back of a ferry, into a beautiful Fjord with mountains either side, a swim doesn't get any better in my opinion Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IM Nice run - flat, warm, 4 laps, can always see both ends of the course
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portrush sea swim: Swam with a basking shark for company, although the swell was such that you couldn't see anything while swimming. Supporters on the beach got a bit excited though. Was more concerned about the sea sickness from all the buffeting.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swim: Not sure, IMA sounds good if it's point-to-point? I hate multi-lap. For the same reason I'd probably like Norseman or Celtman.

Bike: Again, not sure. The one I like the best is the X in the Lakes. Hard, yes, but the scenery is stunning all the way (apart from a bit of A road on the west coast). For pure speed it'd be IM CPH, Outlaw or ex-Rubicon/now-Falcon (half) at Newby Hall.

Run: Absolute no-brainer - that's Wasdale X Half when it was run from Wasdale. Single loop with the best scenery the country has to offer, and the course just throws everything at you: Steep ascents/descents, narrow rocky trails, a bit of rock climbing, bouncing over huge boulders, ghyll scrambling, and marshlands. All in 21k, simply stunning.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have limited experience however, here are mine, so far:

Swim, IM 70.3 Switzerland - beautiful clean lake, clearly marked swim to the middle of the lake and back

Bike: Zug Triathlon (CH), flat, fast on perfect roads (42kph average speed), even if it is 1km short

Bike: New Forest Middle distance, great ride through the New Forest, on surprisingly good roads, rolling course, with no major hills... so long as it is not windy

Run: IM Vichy, flat run, 4 laps, so spectator friendly, varied with run round lake, parks and town... so long as you don't mind the heat
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Symes wrote:
IM Nice run - flat, warm, 4 laps, can always see both ends of the course


Sounds horrendous to me Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Symes wrote:
IM Nice run - flat, warm, 4 laps, can always see both ends of the course


Sounds horrendous to me Very Happy


The year I did it was hotter than hell - no shade at all apart from a short section by the airport. It's the only race I've done with a medical tent halfway up the course Shocked

On the plus side, there were some great "sights" to be seen on the beach to take your mind off the suffering Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even after the course changes, I think the IM Lanza bike course is hard to beat Cool - it's an epic, single lap course and if anything, I reckon the course changes have made it more difficult.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whisk wrote:
The year I did it was hotter than hell - no shade at all apart from a short section by the airport. It's the only race I've done with a medical tent halfway up the course Shocked


Let me stop you there. It is widely acknowledged that the hottest events are as follows:

(Surface of the Sun)
Outlaw 2013*
(Mercury)
Frankfurt 2015
Kona most years
Nice when you did it

Wink

*whatevvva
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Let me stop you there. It is widely acknowledged that the hottest events are as follows:

(Surface of the Sun)
Outlaw 2013*
(Mercury)
Frankfurt 2015
Kona most years
Nice when you did it

Wink

*whatevvva


To be fair, Nottingham was AS HOT as Kona on that day (I didn't do it that year):

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/uk/nottingham/historic?month=7&year=2013

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/kailua-kona/historic?month=7&year=2013
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swims Kona Swim is awesome ,like swimming in a huge fish tank,Perfect swim Temp
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awesome location great views while swimming ,plus lovely clean (fresh) water
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poet. wrote:


To be fair, Nottingham was AS HOT as Kona on that day (I didn't do it that year):

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/uk/nottingham/historic?month=7&year=2013

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/usa/kailua-kona/historic?month=7&year=2013


I see what you've done there Very Happy Yes, as 'hot' as Kona at 4.46am.... in the night Wink

Outlaw '13 must have been high 20s in the sunlight iirc; so to be fair, actually pretty 'hot' for the UK when you're doing an Iron dist marathon! Frankfurt had >1000 DNFs in 2015 (40 in shade), but not this call-sign Rolling Eyes Cool
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