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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That same cached webpage shows a "related items" bike at the bottom, with a $15k disc bike, with zipp disc wheels.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Felt will be the first big brand to have a Disc TT bike are an almost sensible price

They also have a IA2 SRAM Etap version with Zipp wheels at 7,500
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems Felt can't decide whether or not to release it yet Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Seems Felt can't decide whether or not to release it yet Rolling Eyes


Given the lead-time to manufacture the bikes, I suspect that at least an initial order must have been placed before the web site was updated. I suspect it is a timing issue or they have an unclear go to market strategy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 15k bike is spectacular....you'd need to be bloody good at...
1> triathlon
2> convincing your significant other/lying

to make that work
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
Looks like Felt will be the first big brand to have a Disc TT bike are an almost sensible price

They also have a IA2 SRAM Etap version with Zipp wheels at 7,500
USD



Just clocked the discs on the almost affordable one are basic TRP cables...pfft.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, the cheapest disc version is still comfortably over 4k ($5.5k), so sales won't be brisk at this early stage.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my Spesh Venge Disc with Ultegra hydraulics for 2300 recently (although admittedly on sale as RRP is 4500). MTBs have had hydraulics for years so manufacturing cost for that kind of component really should be sorted.

It really can't be where the cost is can it?

Putting mechanicals on a bike like that is just bad marketing as it'll give it a bad name.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrace wrote:
I got my Spesh Venge Disc with Ultegra hydraulics for 2300 recently (although admittedly on sale as RRP is 4500). MTBs have had hydraulics for years so manufacturing cost for that kind of component really should be sorted.

It really can't be where the cost is can it?

Putting mechanicals on a bike like that is just bad marketing as it'll give it a bad name.


I guess the big manufacturers haven't 'tooled up' their (mass) production lines for TT hydro brake levers yet. Also, I think that 'base' IA3 model has Ultegra Di2, hence the price. But if you compare that to the QR PR6 Disc frameset, which is a similar price, it's great value!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one disc bike ( a Focus Paralane), it's a do it all bike I keep at my Mum's. I don't really get excited about discs but that Felt looks pretty good compared to other TT attempts at it.

I still thing my next TT bike will be a rim brake, mostly because of the sunk cost in wheels.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrace wrote:


Putting mechanicals on a bike like that is just bad marketing as it'll give it a bad name.


Yep, look at the P5X....awful bike, 13k+ with trp mechanicals and the pros are now reverting back to the P5.

I think the issue is the lack of decent di2/hydro brake levers. The market must be pretty tiny at this point so unit cost will be high. My guess anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had the money or support to have both rim & disc brake TT bikes i.e. like a Pro athlete, I would. Disc brakes for very hilly or wet days, rim brakes for dry 'normal' conditions.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serious question - apart from triathletes who race on "sporting" courses and maybe train on their TT bikes all the time, is there any demand for better braking on TT bikes?

I thought most testers saw brakes as a necessary evil rather than something that had to be particularly effective. Pro cyclists generally make much less use of their brakes than the average amateur. Unless there are other benefits (e.g. aero?) I can't see what would have people rushing out to buy a TT bike with discs. Folks are more likely to have invested serious money in trick wheels for their TT bikes, which would be redundant if they switched to discs.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whisk wrote:
Folks are more likely to have invested serious money in trick wheels for their TT bikes, which would be redundant if they switched to discs.

To answer the question, no, not really.

But I think the disc road bikes will pull the TTs for that exact reason. I now have a road with discs so if I was to get a TT I'd prefer a disc so I could swap wheels around.

And of course, since people have invested all that money in rim brake wheels it's time to get them to spend it again. Like 11sp, 12sp, etc. (I doubt the 10sp to 11sp was more revolutionary than the 5 blade razor).

Whether we need discs at all I'll leave for GrahamO to explain.
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