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TRO Saracen




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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Had this injury been diagnosed later, then he would have potentially had a re-run of last year; another 'bad day'. Getting injured as a pro of his ability is no-less imprudent than going too hard in a race and blowing-up no? In the war of attrition, unfortunately he's succumbed a month before race-day.

In essence, Frodeno has worked himself too hard and taken himself out of the race in September.


Spot on. He's chased down and beaten all his rivals over the course of 6 months maintaining peak fitness throughout, starting with Oceanside in March. They now get to compete for the big one with the stage clear.

He's in his mid 30's and been competing at the top level for 15 years and has put himself through a 6 month war of attrition that he didn't need to, a big error.

Swings heavily to Lange now, only guy with a proven 2:40 Kona run in the locker and managed to peak for the big day last year (so much so that many wrote him off due to his early season form) and looks on a similar trajectory this year.

Currie went off the back of the 70.3 WC pack (that Gomez hung onto) so I think he'll be too far back at T2. Gomez: only done one IM run - a very good one mind, but to be as quick, if not quicker on your first Kona after a bike that will test him? Too big an ask for me.

Off to ST to see if they've already crowned Lionel...Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan is already there it would seem!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't see LS doing it, for me would love to see Gomez taking the crown, he is a big unknown, so I think that it is possible, and if it happens will be the start of a new group of athletes dominating Long Distance races (which I am will happen sooner or later). however, I think that Lange will probably win.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it wrong to hope for an apocalyptically bad day for the sainted Lionel, just to enjoy the ST meltdown?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
Is it wrong to hope for an apocalyptically bad day for the sainted Lionel, just to enjoy the ST meltdown?


If he wins there will be a meltdown.

Basically, there will be a meltdown.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
TRO Saracen wrote:
Is it wrong to hope for an apocalyptically bad day for the sainted Lionel, just to enjoy the ST meltdown?


If he wins there will be a meltdown.

Basically, there will be a meltdown.


For St Lionel to have a chance, he needs to avoid doing anything stupid on the day, even then, I am not sure that he has the run
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
For St Lionel to have a chance, he needs to avoid doing anything stupid on the day, even then, I am not sure that he has the run


He had a good enough run last year for all but Lange. It only takes Lange to be a little below the level he reached last year and LS will hold him off to the end. Not sure where Gomez fits in to that race, he wasn't the fastest run split in his 1st IM, but maybe still learning. Will he be ahead of Lange off the bike?

3 way sprint finish anyone?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If conditions are tough on the bike, I'll go Sanders or Kienle for the win. If LS has sorted his handling issues on the descent from Hawi, then that's another plus for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If conditions are tough on the bike, I'll go Sanders or Kienle for the win. If LS has sorted his handling issues on the descent from Hawi, then that's another plus for him.


bolted on to a turbo trainer?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jorgan wrote:
If conditions are tough on the bike, I'll go Sanders or Kienle for the win. If LS has sorted his handling issues on the descent from Hawi, then that's another plus for him.


bolted on to a turbo trainer?

They can do some funky stuff now. That cobble simulation on the Neo must be perfect prep for certain courses Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stenard wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
If conditions are tough on the bike, I'll go Sanders or Kienle for the win. If LS has sorted his handling issues on the descent from Hawi, then that's another plus for him.


bolted on to a turbo trainer?

They can do some funky stuff now. That cobble simulation on the Neo must be perfect prep for certain courses Wink


Doesn't he use rollers as well? With an industrial strength fan at the side might work?
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