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PCP




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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:01 pm    Post subject: Ironman Barcelona 2019 Reply with quote

I am giving serious consideration to transferring my IMUK entry to Barcelona (if I get the job I've interviewed for for, which I find out tomorrow)

I know the UK course so well, it is horrible, dangerous to train on and will definitely be dangerous with 2500 people on. I'm not enjoying the training and will definitely not enjoy the race, even with a lot of local support.

I can get Friday/Monday flights for £171 inc bike. AirBNB will be cheap, car cheap also.

I know it is a bit of a pussy move but this is supposed to be fun, right?!

Is anyone else going out there?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will be out for my 4th go at this one (1 as challenge)

PB course.

Flying from East Mids on the Thursday - Tue
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davem wrote:
will be out for my 4th go at this one (1 as challenge)

PB course.

Flying from East Mids on the Thursday - Tue


There is a good chunk of that in the thought process too.

I've slogged it round Bolton twice and Wales once and I would do Wales again in a heartbeat. I am/was also looking forward to the Bolton run but the thought of the bike course just kills all the joy of the process for me.

£170 flight & bike
£50 car
£150 accommodation
In, race, out so not much to spend while there.

I could of course do both but at least have Barcalona to look forward to Shocked
Try getting the wife to sign that off Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just realised only Nirvana places left. It said it wasn't sold out on my mobile phone but laptop version saying sold out.

That means it will be a fortune for added fees and accommodation. Game over Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone seems to have a huge downer on the new Bolton bike course.

How different is it to the old course (I did the old 3 lapper, and the 2 lapper with Hunter's). Wasn't a great bike course, but never got the bad press of the new from people who've tried it out.

Sad, it may kill the race if as bad as it sounds.

Which would open a slot for another full in England...

Blackp..... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PCP wrote:
Just realised only Nirvana places left. It said it wasn't sold out on my mobile phone but laptop version saying sold out.

That means it will be a fortune for added fees and accommodation. Game over Sad


What about Hamburg? or IM Italy on 21 September?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
PCP wrote:
Just realised only Nirvana places left. It said it wasn't sold out on my mobile phone but laptop version saying sold out.

That means it will be a fortune for added fees and accommodation. Game over Sad


What about Hamburg? or IM Italy on 21 September?


The dates are no good for me, unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
Everyone seems to have a huge downer on the new Bolton bike course.

How different is it to the old course (I did the old 3 lapper, and the 2 lapper with Hunter's). Wasn't a great bike course, but never got the bad press of the new from people who've tried it out.

Sad, it may kill the race if as bad as it sounds.

Which would open a slot for another full in England...

Blackp..... Wink


There is almost zero fun sections, all non-aero climbing or sketchy descents.
The old course was a tough, honest course that was a test. This is more like a challenge than a race if that makes sense. Great for TC and the likes who love the tough stuff but it is grim.
I know of 3-4 spots where I can guarantee there will be people pushing their bikes on lap 2.

Iím sh!tting myself training on the course with traffic flying past me. Iím Ďluckyí I live on the course so know all the roads but Iíd be surprised if you get many that do it this year do it again.

Personally I was looking forward to the run sooooo much but I think Iíll be exhausted by the time I get off the bike.

Iím whining a lot, some may think it is not so bad but for me it has ruined the race.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I originally thought people were being a bit OTT, but when I heard Brian Fogarty rinsing it on a podcast (and he previously beat all pro's to have the fastest bike split of anyway on the old course in 2017), then that made me realise there may be something to it.

He said very much the same as you - the fact it's just dangerous, and he also lives in the area.

Flat courses certainly play to my strength, not because I'm overly powerful but I can maintain a reasonable W/cda value to mask some of my weaknesses. But the other thing that appeals to me about them is the fear of 2500 other idiots taking me out (Barguil style on G) on a tricky descent.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Phil
Am on the start list in calella, done it 3 times, few good hotels and a load of outdated ones, I fly out of Liverpool on Thursday till Tuesday get involved soft lad
Get on the ale on the Monday with me
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil, sorry, but anyone who's anyone will be in Hamburg....the new drag-strip in town Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately Iím on holiday with my family when Hamburg is on. Also unfortunately I cannot transfer to Barcelona as Ďonly Nirvana places leftí

Looks like Iím stuck with Bolton.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

will turbo wrote:
Hey Phil
Am on the start list in calella, done it 3 times, few good hotels and a load of outdated ones, I fly out of Liverpool on Thursday till Tuesday get involved soft lad
Get on the ale on the Monday with me


I start a new job on May 1st, if all goes well I may grab a late Nirvana place but not sure will have the £££
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:

How different is it to the old course


I believe it's not 17 miles short, that's why people are moaning Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO

Its very different.

Hunters is not on the new loop, nothing as steep, but the climbs or drags, go on for miles, literally, your up hill for three miles at one point only 3-8% and i managed it in the big ring last month, but it is really hard to get any sort of speed or momentum going.
The steepest gradients you actually go down, but there technical on awful roads,so your on the brakes all the time.. if it rains its going to be carnage.

Second time round if the winds blowing, its very very exposed, the average speeds will be very slow for most athletes.

Ive seen Foggy in action and he is a very confident handler at very fast speeds. His comments on the podcast with Marc Laithwaite say it all.

I know its not meant to be easy, but several "bigger" athletes who signed up for 5000 ft are not bringing there Hokas..or any trainers at all as they wont hit the cut offs on the new course.

Lots on the loop now a good few cant get sub 3 flat out for one jaunt round, after the swim, a second loop and a marathon to run......
Tough day coming.
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