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AndyS.




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a free forum and it's all give and take. Answer a few questions and take some information. Sure people form little gangs but why shouldn't they? I've met plenty here, some I get on with very well and others I didn't connect with, some I've trained with, ate with, socialised with and stayed with while on holiday so I'd be more inclined to have a joke with them than with people I haven't met. Maybe that makes me out ot be cliquey but that's just the way it is. I'd not joke with someone I didn't know, either virtually or in reality, as there's no way of knowing how they'd take it. So for some you speak formally and to others casually. I can't see that there's anything wrong with that, in fact, I think it's the correct way to behave.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyS. wrote:
It's a free forum and it's all give and take. Answer a few questions and take some information. Sure people form little gangs but why shouldn't they? I've met plenty here, some I get on with very well and others I didn't connect with, some I've trained with, ate with, socialised with and stayed with while on holiday so I'd be more inclined to have a joke with them than with people I haven't met. Maybe that makes me out ot be cliquey but that's just the way it is. I'd not joke with someone I didn't know, either virtually or in reality, as there's no way of knowing how they'd take it. So for some you speak formally and to others casually. I can't see that there's anything wrong with that, in fact, I think it's the correct way to behave.


agreed, but it has become apparent to some members, QZ obviously being one of them, that some members were behaving slightly differently for a laugh at others expense, (using sock puppets etc) and this sort of thing was to the detrement of the forum.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markie r wrote:
agreed, but it has become apparent to some members, QZ obviously being one of them, that some members were behaving slightly differently for a laugh at others expense, (using sock puppets etc) and this sort of thing was to the detrement of the forum.


Not sure how you read that from QZ's post Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ianmcl wrote:
markie r wrote:
agreed, but it has become apparent to some members, QZ obviously being one of them, that some members were behaving slightly differently for a laugh at others expense, (using sock puppets etc) and this sort of thing was to the detrement of the forum.


Not sure how you read that from QZ's post Confused


QZ alluding to the behaviour of some on the forum is all i meant.
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Fidgie Pie




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crikey, it has all gone a bit crazy on here, ever since the big hack I think!. I have not been posting very much recently as a) computer broke down, b) been really busy at work, c) being rather pregnant I don't have a lot to ask TT about and am not doing any events.

ONce you get out of the habit of posting, it is harder to get back into it and you don't feel the urge to join in the general padding threads as you are a bit 'out of practice'.

There are plenty of threads that I have either managed to completely kill off (last post and then the tumbleweed effect) or have only had maybe 1 reply to. I don't take offence, and I don't really care.

I do like the fact that there are regular people on here and you do 'sort of get to know them' and can guage how to reply to a comment etc (e.g you are pretty safe insulting ilovespeedos etc Wink ).

I don't think it is clique here (definaly not compared to some forums!) -

Qz - I too seem to remember you have had this dilema before about leaving TT - it is not a paying club - it is in an internet forum. People come and go, if you are not getting the answers you want, sorry about that - but looking at the front page of the OT section threads have been hanging around for ages with the last post days ago (meaning there are not many people on here at the moment and the forum is moving pretty slowly).

Not sure what the point of all that was, but perhaps I am just getting back into practice Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QZ try just not posting for a week or so. Why would you need to tell us you are leaving? If you do the transactional analysis of this it would suggest that either you want the "clique" to call you back and ask you not to leave or that you hope you can change something.

It is a mistake to get to emotionally involved with all this stuff as AMD said. I think there is room for more humour and less sarcasm on the forum (but personally am poor at the former and the latter comes too easily).

I would be worried that you are so affected byTT that you feel you have to leave. But in the end this is just a forum which you can stay at or leave!

Come the season we will all be bragging about our exploits again and all wil be well. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quadzilla, I always thought you had the coolest tritalk name. Though I shall be pronouncing it with my best Welsh accent from now on... Wink
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Cobbie




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just read the whole thread and wondered if I'm in "the Clique". My answer...probably. Since joining, I've taken the trouble to meet up with people from the forum whenever possible and that's always made for a positive experience. As you get to know people better, so you can start to enter into "virtual conversations" with them and hence I guess, say things that some people won't understand. And hey, why should I or anybody else feel in any way ashamed if this gives a community feel about the forum. Smile There are plenty of comments that I don't understand, I just accept that and move on to something else.

I've asked questions, some on the forum, some by PM when I've wanted to tap a person's knowledge about something very specific - equally, I've had a lot of people PM me about things, off-road running type stuff in particular. To get this to happen though you do need to put some effort in yourself, just like making friends in real life. Smile

One suggestion - blogland is a calmer, slower, more friendly part of the forum. If you want to get to know about some of the people on the forum, it's not a bad place to start. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cobbie wrote:


One suggestion - blogland is a calmer, slower, more friendly part of the forum. If you want to get to know about some of the people on the forum, it's not a bad place to start. Cool


Definately - I have been missing my visits to blogland - time I caught up properly
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to echo fidgie and cobbie, I love blogland and this can also give you more of an insight into the personalities of the posters. I am only new to the forum, but try to get involved as much as I can so you can second guess replies in the main forum. When I visit the forum I ask as much as I can and take LOADS and LOADS of information in. Like AndyS says, give and take and ignore what you dont like.

All these statements of "I am leaving now" cry of "LOOK AT ME" and to be honest I dont really care. Go find somewhere else and good luck to you.

Its a personal choice, but I quite enjoy some of the dafter stuff as well, as I am a firm believer of fun and frivolity as well as bloody hard work.....thats the life balance you need.

For me, this is the best site I could have hoped for coming into tri and i have received advice and help from all sorts, including the so called clique members as well as others who I have never heard of.

Its a friendly site, but like all things you have to engage with it to get the best from it. It doesnt OWE you anything !!!!

Another one gone, but there will be another to replace him so lets all move on and enjoy what it a fantastic site !!!!
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T-rex of Tri




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess if there is a clique then it is from people who have met each other through the forum or have 'shared' something virtually.

The London crowd who attend socials certainly seem to know each other well and post stuff that I don't understand much of the time, people from blogland have shared experiences of tough times in training and support each other.

And anyone who I met from the forum who went to The Longest Day this year is truly 'ma best pal' as the big effort from Tritalkers for this race meant that I could take part and complete my first Ironman.

I wouldn't say there is a clique as no-one is actively discouraged, I love reading posts from people who are putting something into the forum, people like Markie R stir debate, sometimes this is really needed.

Andy
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oscar




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well look at it now QZ this thread has been on less than 12 hours and you have 56 hits so just contradicted yourself. serouisly stick around as people have already said use it for your own good. i'm not in the clique i don't think but i hav emade the time to meet up with others and now have some good friends on this site. i guess you get out what you put in.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what to make of this post QZ. Perhps concern that you have taken TT so seriously.

IMHO it is quite apparent that various members know each other socially, virtually - or both - and use the forum accordingly. There is evidently a smattering of knowledgeable people - of tri and perhaps life in general - and use the forum for such but, in general, it would appear that the forum is used for light hearted banter, stress relief and as a good excuse not to get on with work and/or training. Posts vary between the idiotic, amusing, informative, questioning, political, damaging to the occasional libellous. Being bomb happy I flit between them all.

The forum will not be weakened by anyone's departure, I don't suppose, but you will lose your opportunity to have some input in some lively debates and thought provoking issues - this thread, in particular, is a corker Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just like tyo add my 2p's worth.........................

Bye Q have a good 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-rex of Tri wrote:
The London crowd who attend socials certainly seem to know each other well and post stuff that I don't understand much of the time


I don't understand them either - especially that Daz, who never makes any sense! Rolling Eyes Wink
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