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Tunafish




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:27 pm    Post subject: Bike options Reply with quote

I have an idea.... should i buy the below bike use it for a year and then use it as a winter/training bike and upgrade next year to a better bike or...... (See below) save up another few hundred and buy

DAWES GIRO 500
7005 aluminium frame
Carbon fibre fork
Shimano 18 105
Shimano 105 STI combined shifters
Giptemme T3 wheelset
Shimano 105/ alloy double pivot caliper
Truvativ Elita crankset
S/ M/ L
Silver and black
699.99 (587.99 with discount)


save up another few hundred more and buy

Cannondale R700
Frame CAAD7 Optimo
Fork Cannondale Slice Premium
Rear Shock N/A
Rims Shimano WH-R550 Dura-Ace design technology
Hubs Shimano WH-R550
Spokes Shimano WH-R550
Tires Hutchinson Top Speed Kevlar, 700 x 23c
Pedals N/A
Crank FSA Gossamer MegaExo, 39/53
Chain Shimano HG-53
Rear Cogs SRAM PG-950, 12-26
Bottom Bracket FSA MegaExo integrated
Front Derailleur Shimano 105
Rear Derailleur Shimano 105
Shifters Shimano 105
Handlebars Cannondale Fire 6061-T6 butted alloy
Stem Cannondale Fire 3-D Forged 31.8mm
Headset FSA Orbit integrated
Brakeset Cannondale Theta
Brakelevers Shimano 105

1000.

what are your views
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my vote goes to the second bike
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers connor its the one i want really, although i will have a look at the other new models once the shop has them in stock, i am willing to spending more.

Also my next question is..... Which pedels are best suited to Tri, cleats/transition etc...

cheers
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleats don't matter at all. Practice getting on a bike with the shoes clipped in already, and putting your feet in them on the move. It can be tricky, but it saves you plenty of time in transition (especially in a big transition like London or Windsor). Plus, it's how the elite do it, so it makes you look cool! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started with a budget of 500 quid, decided there was nothing I wanted for 500 quid so upped it to 1000. Saw the Trek 1500 2004 model and thought that looked nice, but then a mate sent me a piccie of the Klein Aura XV - at 1500 quid (in the sales) it was way over budget but the mrs said if that was what I really wanted then get it!! Unfortunately I have struggled to find somewhere close with it in my size, but this meant that psychologically the budget has been raised again. I think I have now finally found the bike I want and it should come in at around 1400 quid. Oops!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats the new bike foggy?

something special?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will let you know if I manage to get it - will find out on thursday (dont wanna jinx it Smile)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig,

Do you already have a winter training bike?
Does the Dawes have clearance for mudguards (ie would it make a suitalble winter bike)?

I like having a training bike and a race bike. Stops your good bike getting trashed. I'd really like to build a third bike, ie one summer training, one winter training and one for races. Maybe next year!!

If you already have a bike you don't mind trashing, get the Cannondale, otherwise go for the Dawes (or something even cheaper like their Tiagra option). Bikes never work as well once they've been through a winter's worth of cr*p weather.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id go for the Cannondale and then upgrade the components as and when you can afford as the CAAD7 optimo frame is quality so it would only need the bits upgraded as and when.

Also do you intend to do much riding in the winter because if you do i would get a winter training bike and it will take some serious hammer in the wet, and salty roads we have in winter
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luckily I have my MTB for winter training, although will have to pop out on the new bike a few times, just got to give a really thorough clean afterwards.

It will then end up on the turbo for most of the winter I think - good chance to tweak it and get it really comfy for the long summer rides!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig,

It's possible for you to have a higher-specced bike for less money. How about a 1050g frame, carbon forks, branded finishing kit & full Ultegra for 944? Have a look at this:

FRAME: Ribble Dedacciai SC61.10A (Sloping Top Tube)
52cm matt black
FORK: ITM Spider Raked Carbon
GROUPSET: Shimano Ultegra 9spd Double without hubs
WHEELS: Shimano Pair Wheels 105 (R550) Clincher
HANDLEBAR: ITM Masterblaster
HANDLEBAR STEM: ITM Road Racing
SADDLE: Selle Italia Trimatic 2
SEAT PILLAR: ITM R Racing 27.2 320MM
TYRES: Vittoria Rubino TT Rigid
HANDLEBAR TAPE: ITM Cork Embossed

BikeBuilder Total:
inc VAT: 944.15


If you prefer the 105 group, the price would be 888. You can tweak any of the options on their website here: http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/bikebuilder.asp

I've never found better value for money than this. You can order over the net, or else go to the shop and get measured up. OK, so it means a trip to Preston, but when you're getting this amount of bike for the money, that's no problem at all to me!

(and no, I don't work for them!)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and by the way, this is my "dream" Ribble bike. Full carbon frame & Look carbon forks, full Record group with carbon cranks, etc. The whole thing only weighs 6.2kg. All for 2 and a half big ones!

FRAME: Ribble Carbon Flash (Sloping Top Tube)
FORK: Look HSC4 SL Carbon
GROUPSET: Campagnolo Record 10spd Double carbon cset without hubs
WHEELS: Mavic Pair Wheels Ksyrium SSL SL Clincher
HANDLEBAR: Deda 215 Anatomical
HANDLEBAR STEM: ITM Millennium 4 Ever
SADDLE: Sella Italia Flite Titanium TT (Tubular)
SEAT PILLAR: Use Alien Carbon 27.2
TYRES: Michelin Carbon 700 x 23mm black/yellow
HANDLEBAR TAPE: ITM Cork Embossed carbon look

BikeBuilder Total:
inc VAT: 2,541.20
exc VAT: 2,162.74

mmmmm.......dribble.....slobber............
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers everyone, but i am still a little confused at the moment i have no bike to train on or race on, so i was looking at buying a cheapie for winther training and a nice shiney one for races and to spunk my wages on Very Happy

This is the site i was going to get the Cheapie from as i get a 16% discount.

http://www.wheelies.co.uk/2003bikesNew/2003bikeType.asp?bikeTypeID=21

are any of the more expensive ones worth considering with the discount??

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Craig - the Specialized stuff is fine. It's pretty standard spec for the money. Take the Roubaix at 1099 (920 with your discount). Good quality groupset - Uses 105 with an Ultegra rear mech to make it look more expensive, carbon fork, cheap wheels to keep price down. This is pretty much what you can expect for the money - it's a fair deal. I myself wouldn't buy it, though, because, even without your discount, I could have a much higher-specced bike for the price, and have it built to my own spec. (as I've posted above).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the new trek 1000 ,2005 is cracking value for money check it out. also th 1500 is worth a look.
great bikes for good money.
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