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Towel




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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Goal setting for 2008-A different Approach Reply with quote

This is meant to be Towel's helpful moment, so read...contribute...be inspired and get some mojo.

Many of us will set some real goals in the next week or so and most of us know the SMART target approach....Specific, Measurable, Achieveable, Realistic and Time Orientated. But there is something very different out there that i am experiencing at the moment.

For me my target is where i am now...Point A, and Point B being winning the UK Double Ironman, yes....not doing well but winning it. Now for me that means that i have to be able to comfortably swim 8k, cycle 230 miles without killing myself and being able to run every step of 52 miles...not only that but having the mental toughness to believe its possible and the mental skills of being able to deal with 320 lengths, 20 laps on the bike and 52 laps of the run.

Also i need the capacity to run through the night, overcome several low points and be ready to experience the fear of failure like never before.

So, my approach is this...What does a top Double Ironman athlete do?

They work full time, as there is no money in the sport
They train at wierd hours
They eat very well and dont care about weighing food or calories
They have a supportive team
They think a marathon is very easy
They have the ability to switch off and swim many lengths
They have lots of ways of keeping focus
They can cycle a bloody long way without needing too much fuel
They love training and being outside
Etc, etc

So what i need to do now is become that person, not aim to be there in august but take on those characteristics NOW. Even if the fitness and mileage is not there, the spirit has to be there before i really think about training.

Some has already started, and what was seemingly a long run on Xmas eve of 35 miles, now seems like it was just a training run and i can take that to 40, 45 and 50 by February. I am racing a 35 miler in Feb, and its no longer to just prove i can do it but to race a target time or try a nutrition strategy. For ironman, i would cycle to my dads in Cardiff, but now its cycle there and back to be a long ride (230miles).

A double athlete will use more opportunities to train rather than have separate sessions, so a longer commute, running parts of journeys, cycling rather than using a car, running to run races etc...its not normal but then doing a double isnt normal.

Ok all of that sounds a load of balls to most, but look at it another way. IF you were superfit and woke up one day 5 stone heavier, what would you do? You are already the person who knows how to lose weight and maintain it and you know how to do it. You would eat properly, train properly, wear clothes to suit your personality etc....but if you are already 5 stone overweight and want to be superfit 5 stone lighter...its hard because you dont act the same way that person you want to be does.

Make sense? Does to me and therefore setting the process goals of by January i want to be X and by March i want to be Y doesn't cut it for me...i am trying to be that person i want to be in August right now, a little less fit than i will be but i know that this will work as i have adopted the characteristics that will get me there.

Roll on the Mojo, 2008, Austria and DIUK!!!!

Love you all!! (not in a gay way)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saying it another way - from now until the Double Ironman you are going to pretend to be the winner of the double. You are going to pretend to think like the winner, you are going to pretend to train like the winner, you are to going pretend to act like the winner. By the time the race comes you, and everyone around you, will have forgotten that you are only pretending to be the winner and you will just be the winner. Makes sense to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not thinking like winner, but acting like someone who has trained to win.

Its not an arrogant approach, but a self convincing, fulfilling approach.

Its not becoming fit and changing the lifestyle when you become an ironman, but changing it on Jan 1st. Get the mindset right and the fitness will follow.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes complete and total sense to me, and I too have to have that mental approach to make me a sub-12hr IMUK'er in September.......

my mojo is currently helping me hugely on the area that I know I need to improve......... the run........I must and will be able to run more of the IM marathon this time.....

for a Double Ironman thinking the marathon is easy is the goal - for the Ironman the half marathon has to be the routine.......it has to be what I do every week from now until Sept..and it has to be something that is easy, that doesnt have any fear factor and I need to be able to step this up to 20 miles being easy. That is my goal for July.....

Last year was hard for me in terms of being able to think like an athlete....I hadnt done that for 10years and was only just getting fit, so to think like an athlete for me was wrong....in fact I didnt even feel like an athlete until that home stretch in Sherborne running into the Castle Grounds...but this year, I can now allow myself that luxury.....and thinking like an athlete puts your mind in a totally new and concentrated zone......

for me 2008 cannot come soon enough, I have set myself goals each month (will share em on my blog soon enough).......I am gonna do everything I possibly can to get as close to 11hr 30mins at Sherborne this year.....I believe and I will.......
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I understand.

In 2007 I entered the sport with 1 Oly and a sprint, so I can't claim great experience. I will be doing IMUK in 2009, in under 12 hours. EVERY race and training session from here until that finish line is geared toward that goal. To all intents and purposes, I am an Ironman, I just don't have the medal and tattoo yet.

From now on, you ARE the winner of DIUK. As I'm sure you know, there are no short-cuts in training for endurence events - you either do it, or you lose. Simple. It WILL be the hardest thing you've ever done (physically and mentally), but what other option do you have?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some great positive thinking there
--Im always being told to think positive, since tend not to.
Good sense, well done
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice post Towel.

I think what this really demonstrates is the fact that as AG'ers we tend to focus too much on the physical element of triathlon. The fact we need to do x amount of aerobic and y amount of anaerobic sessions to build our bodies into the racing machine that we try to be (at whatever end of the spectrum we may fall into performance wise).

What we neglect is the mental / psychological side. And as I'm starting to do more reading on coaching methods since I've done my courses, this is the area which people seem to be turning their attention to.

If we don't work on our minds as well as our bodies, our bodies simply will not be able to utilise the training specifically. We wont be able to push as hard as we could otherwise.

For example. The burn we feel when we are going max effort, what we tend to call the "lactate burn". This phenomenom which we attribute to lactice acid damaging our muscles and thus we back off to avoid injury, is not actually a physical event. The lactate levels are too low to cause damage. What is currently believed is that it is a mental block, inbuilt to prevent us going so far as to actually cause damage. So it is reasonable to suggest that it is possible to go beyond that point of hurt, provided the mind is strong enough to do so. Which comes back round to the concept of "hurtbox" training, training yourself to deal with hurt.

Sorry if this has gone off topic a bit, it's just my brain trying to work through the turkey and chocolate haze that I'm in at the moment!

now, I must start thinking like an athlete again................ Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trust Towel to post mojo at the perfect time - cheers mate!

This has been my method too in setting my goals for 2008 - had a nightmare couple of weeks before xmas due to work but now everything is slotting into place and tomorrow I will be hitting the sales for everything I need to run at night so I don't get into the state I did before xmas with not enough hours in the day!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why stop at thinking a marathon is easy?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiganer wrote:

for a Double Ironman thinking the marathon is easy is the goal -


whilst agreeing with wiganers thinking it is a double marathon and you have to get off the bike being in a position to do 52 miles (be that running walking or crawling)Exclamation

I will never be in a position to even drea, about doing this event
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be wrong but i think to summarize it: work out what you need to do to achieve you goal and then do it.
Easier said than done on both parts but that's the "fun" of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiganer wrote:
for the Ironman the half marathon has to be the routine ... I need to be able to step this up to 20 miles being easy.

Great minds, wiggy (or possibly equally deluded souls...)

My Norseman training last year got me to the point where I could run a HM at the drop of a hat but 20 miles still required preparation, thought and a conscious effort to increase my self-belief. After the race, I came to the conclusion that in order to improve, I need to get to the point where 20 miles is just a run.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, and also just what I needed to be reminded at this time of vast seasonal overeating and general middle aged, middle age, crisis.

It is however very true and in essence is what I did when I woke up one morning and decided that I wanted a bigger chalenge than a marathon. With something like 10 months to prepare I decided to give IMUK a crack, and I could not swim one length front crawl nor in any meaningful sense ride a bike. OK, I dnf'd on the day, but this was really a given since the tear in my shoulder (I can still hear it tearing on me that day in the pool), which ended my training for weeks in the latter phase of my training). But the point is from the day that I started my IM training I used to jog along saying to myself "I am an Ironman, I am an Ironman". OK I am not, but this mental attitude helped me enormously train, train, and train. So ok I overtrained and got injured, but such is. Life is a learning experience after all.

Anyhow as others have said, thank you Towel, your words have hit me just as I have needed them most as I relax after a challenging year, before I get into facing my various fears at Tough Guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look past the double iron scenario and apply it to anything.

Think of becoming the manager of your company, becoming 5 stone lighter, being a millionaire etc. Any goal you aspire to try to write down what being that person entails and then try and take on those attributes rather than only becoming that person as a product of the work to get there.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the kind of posts which make reading these boards such a pleasure. Days of dross can go by and then come the absolute gems. Thanks Towel, truly inspiring.
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