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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi all, I'm doing UTMB this year, haven't gotten around to entering any other events yet before it.

Obvs I'll be doing some hill work in training, but can anyone recommend some nice hilly ultras to look at doing ? I have looked down race listings but it's always good to get recommendations.

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Stu


You will love it.

There is nothing like training on the course - this may prove more valuable than entering an ultra. I can recommend flying to Geneva on the first flight in the morning, get an Alpy bus to Les Houches and then run to Crois d'bonhomme refuge. Get a move on and you will be there for food at 7pm. Then up first thing and crack on to Refugio Bonnati for 7pm dinner again. Then up first thing and on to Trient, you got it, for the 7pm meal and finally up and finish in Cham. Alpy bus back to geneva and fly home. In 3 1/2 days you will have done the route, all in day light. You will then go home S!!t your self and spend the next month running up and down hills. and i mean down hills. It is the down that kills. Also you can stop for photos on the way round meaning you wont need to in th event.

The UTMB is awesome.

Also get used to using poles.

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Thanks for this Very Happy I'll look into flights etc. I ran a couple of bits of it two years ago, the memory of that still scares me.....have poles and need to get using them for sure. My son is worried that I'll time out due to taking too many photos so that would ease that as well Laughing

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Stu


Practise with your poles for LONG periods of time! I had some for my ultra in Feb, and thought i was perfectly confortable with them having taken them for a number of 2-3 hour runs and one 8 hour run.

When it came to using them pretty much non stop for 28 hrs+ my wrists and thumbs were absolutely destroyed! Granted, you're not ever going to train for that type of time, but really practise using them when you're shattered. There's a big difference between using them efificently when you're cruising to literally using them to support your weight as you drop off every step and rock ... as i found out!!! Mad Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't compete with the legends here but my 20km trail race is coming up Saturday. There will be mud! Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree on the poles - I blistered after about 8 hours on a 24 hour race and ended up wearing gloves in mid-summer. Should have trained more with them, and have done so this year.

Mine are telescoping poles and I don't have an easy storage solution either, so I've got a lot better at running with them in one or both hands when I don't need them too.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luckily for my race... poles were specifically not allowed Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ed_m wrote:
Luckily for my race... poles were specifically not allowed Very Happy


that's what the hammer was for ? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch, that hurt! Terrain was very hilly/forest/mud/gravel. You feet were never flat. Results not up yet and I did my usual trick of not stopping my watch until about a minute after the line. I think I'm close to 1:52:30

Kudos to anyone that runs trails longer than that! Worship
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks I came 13/90 overall. Lost two places in the last 600mtrs, tried to dig but just couldn't hang on.
Crying or Very sad

They were both younger than me Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looks I came 13/90 overall. Lost two places in the last 600mtrs, tried to dig but just couldn't hang on.
Crying or Very sad

They were both younger than me Wink


good effort FP...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah good skills FP. It's a slippery slope once you start enjoying the trails though!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah good skills FP. It's a slippery slope once you start enjoying the trails though!! Very Happy


Boom boom Very Happy

Slippery was the right word! I really enjoyed it but man, I'm still aching today. It's amazing how much harder on the body the mixed and uneven terrain is. Would definitely do more but maybe not close to a significant race. The injury probably is a bit high (at least in my case Wink )
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FatPom wrote:
gingerbongo wrote:
Yeah good skills FP. It's a slippery slope once you start enjoying the trails though!! Very Happy


Boom boom Very Happy

Slippery was the right word! I really enjoyed it but man, I'm still aching today. It's amazing how much harder on the body the mixed and uneven terrain is. Would definitely do more but maybe not close to a significant race. The injury probably is a bit high (at least in my case Wink )


See i find the opposite. I can race longer and/or further off road and i'm much, much better the next day. If i run a road race proper hard, like a HM or 10k or something, then i'm in absolute bits for days!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gingerbongo wrote:
FatPom wrote:
gingerbongo wrote:
Yeah good skills FP. It's a slippery slope once you start enjoying the trails though!! Very Happy


Boom boom Very Happy

Slippery was the right word! I really enjoyed it but man, I'm still aching today. It's amazing how much harder on the body the mixed and uneven terrain is. Would definitely do more but maybe not close to a significant race. The injury probably is a bit high (at least in my case Wink )


See i find the opposite. I can race longer and/or further off road and i'm much, much better the next day. If i run a road race proper hard, like a HM or 10k or something, then i'm in absolute bits for days!


Barely had a chance to run at DS...... felt pretty spritely the next day even!



Just a bit of fun this weekend with the Beer Ultra in Buxton... hoping for better than the pouring rain from last time I did it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cake or Death Race..... how much ?!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cake or Death Race..... how much ?!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


That's one of the easiest coastlines Ed .... you'll be fine!

Goes within 1 mile of my parents house, where i grew up! Lovely coastline.

EDIT* Though picking up on your original point (that i seem to have missed Rolling Eyes ) that is a ridiculous price! It's low key, no frills ... but they still want nearly a thousand quid. hmmmm Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gingerbongo wrote:
ed_m wrote:
Cake or Death Race..... how much ?!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


That's one of the easiest coastlines Ed .... you'll be fine!

Goes within 1 mile of my parents house, where i grew up! Lovely coastline.

EDIT* Though picking up on your original point (that i seem to have missed Rolling Eyes ) that is a ridiculous price! It's low key, no frills ... but they still want nearly a thousand quid. hmmmm Shocked


I mean they're equivalent to dragons back which is 300km 800 but I think that has prepped tented villages and is an established event with media coverage and a title sponsor....
(Yes just checked, tented accom & almost fully catered)

Either way C/D I reckon self supported in less than 4 days for 1/3 of the price....

Also possible I still have a slightly bad taste in my mouth from the same organiser a couple of years ago.
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