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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a skiing fall in February. 5 weeks ago. Nothing broken, nothing torn, but some sort of shoulder ligament injury. First of all I was in lots of pain and couldn't move my arm from the shoulder, then took anti inflamatories and pain killers and managed to ski for 2 days. Back home and simple stuff like changing gear in the car hurt. It is slowly improving, but slow. 5 weeks and I still can't stretch out my arm above my head or hold it out sideways for very long. Pulling a shirt/jumper on can set off loads of pain too. I just wish it would get better quicker
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i broke collar bone and separated (they missed the break). i then separated again. bone just pokes up in the air these days.

a good physio meant i didn't need an operation.

back then i was jumping off stuff on mtb's and i was back doing it again gently after 4 weeks and properly with impact after 6 weeks.

don't rush the recovery though, if it hurts, stop, you'll only drag it out.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

many thanks for all the advice & positive imput, it is really helping me.
i have deferred the london marathon & binned IM lanza as i will not be healed enough.

i am under the knife on tuesday to have this procedure

http://www.lockdown.uk.com/outside-usa/surgicaltechnique.html

i am very lucky as the nhs consultant was an ex GB swimmer who understands that my only concerns are how quick i can get back to training & that i need full flexibilty in my shoulder.

i must say that i am very impressed with the nhs, i that within 4 days of my accident i was given a surgery slot which was cancelled due to the road rash but i was then given another one for this tuesday (9 days post accident).
This appointment i have been told is 100% guaranteed & will not be cancelled so lets hope it works.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowie wrote:
i am under the knife on tuesday to have this procedure

http://www.lockdown.uk.com/outside-usa/surgicaltechnique.html

It's interesting how the procedure you end up having comes down to which consultant you see. Some prefer hook plate, some prefer tightrope, I believe using lockdown/surgilig for early surgery is quite rare, it's more usually used later on when other methods have failed, as it will hold everything in place by itself, it doesn't need the ligaments to heal to do its job. But the trade off with hook plate vs tightrope is that the tightrope gives you better early movement at the expense of a greater risk of it failing before the ligaments have healed. Surgilig is much more robust than tightrope so seems to offer the best of both worlds. With the experience of what I went through with the hook plate, I'd be pretty tempted to try surgilig if I could go back in time and be offered that option.

I agree with theprawn about avoiding pain during the recovery. They kept telling me to push through the pain but I don't think they understand what that means to an athlete. The more I pushed through the pain the worse everything became, I made the best progress when I confined myself to totally pain free movement. Sensations of pulling / stretching a bit were fine but it seemed to be very bad to push into actual pain.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the op yesterday & am now back home.
both sets of ligaments holding the collar bone down were torn,so the collarbone was moving upwards & forwards.
The lock down proceedure went well & I am in less pain with movement.
Just got to rest the shoulder for 4-6 weeks,looks like I will have to learn to love the turbo Sad(
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you not have to even be in a sling while the screws set into the bone?

I'm deeply jealous, my experience with the hook plate was not pleasant at all in the short term, I think I was in a sling for 3 weeks after the plate was put in, and 2 weeks after it was taken out. I could only type one handed for quite a long time as I couldn't get the hand of the injured arm to the keyboard. And there wasn't any hope at all of being able to train on the turbo.

Good luck with your recovery, sounds like it should be quite quick, relatively speaking.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowie wrote:


i am under the knife on tuesday to have this procedure

http://www.lockdown.uk.com/outside-usa/surgicaltechnique.html

Nice patient-facing info there! Hope it heals strong. Thought that "being a triathlete" may have counted as contra-indication 5 though. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I ask how those who opted not to have an operation were when they got back to swimming? I had my first swim this weekend and it wasn't good. Almost like a clicking feeling and general weakness in the shoulder.

More general strengthening or any recommendations on swim-specific stuff I could do?

Maybe its a good thing as in the pool that shoulder now feels as weak as the other one with old rotator cuff issues. Maybe this will balance me out in the pool.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedZep,

Swimming for me was probably easiest as there was no jarring. I was swimming long about a month after my accident (5km of bliss - had a holiday in Sardinia!) but took it slow and steady - no paddles or hammering intervals. I did the Dorney 10km not too long after/ I think it's a case of slowly building the strength back.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Groovy.
Slow and steady it is. First race in May, so I'll just take it easy in the swim.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a grade 5 separation after been hit by a car last May. Local hospital wanted to operate within the week but given the tri stuff I wanted a specialist to do it. I didn't do anything for a few weeks and then started running again and then by July was doing some cycling although it was sore. Couldnt really swim at all - think I got up to 2km at one point.

Finally had the surgey to reconstruct the joint using the LARS artificial ligament procedure (think it was called that) 8 weeks ago and the collar bone is now back in place with everything repaired. Was in a brace 24/7 for 2 weeks and then was running gently after four weeks but not much else. Was told to avoid lifting anything heavy or put weight through the arm for 8 weeks. Had the follow up consultation last week and now have the all clear to resume what I normally do but to be sensible. Just as well as i've the outlaw in July...

Out of interest I've also had a knee cruciate reconstruction and the shoulder surgery has been a lot more painful particularly for the first week or two when I came out of the brace. Apparently shoulder surgery is a sod for being sore!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davesm wrote:
Had a grade 5 separation after been hit by a car last May. Local hospital wanted to operate within the week but given the tri stuff I wanted a specialist to do it. I didn't do anything for a few weeks and then started running again and then by July was doing some cycling although it was sore. Couldnt really swim at all - think I got up to 2km at one point.

Finally had the surgey to reconstruct the joint using the LARS artificial ligament procedure (think it was called that) 8 weeks ago and the collar bone is now back in place with everything repaired. Was in a brace 24/7 for 2 weeks and then was running gently after four weeks but not much else. Was told to avoid lifting anything heavy or put weight through the arm for 8 weeks. Had the follow up consultation last week and now have the all clear to resume what I normally do but to be sensible. Just as well as i've the outlaw in July...

Out of interest I've also had a knee cruciate reconstruction and the shoulder surgery has been a lot more painful particularly for the first week or two when I came out of the brace. Apparently shoulder surgery is a sod for being sore!


Sounds like your having a real bitch of a time, & I hope you make the outlaw in good shape.
Talking to others,this is one injury I would not wish on anyone especially. Someone doing triathalon.

Two weeks now since my op & things are looking promising. No swimming,walking for more than 1/2 hour gets painful but I can cycle on a turbo for 1 ,1/2 hrs. I think over the next two weeks things will get better looking at the progression in the last two weeks.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowie wrote:
Two weeks now since my op & things are looking promising. No swimming,walking for more than 1/2 hour gets painful but I can cycle on a turbo for 1 ,1/2 hrs. I think over the next two weeks things will get better looking at the progression in the last two weeks.

That is terrific progress, I think the lockdown surgery you had is a really good procedure and hopefully it will all just keep getting better for you from here.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like it is progressing well as SteveI says. As mine is an artificial ligament I was told in no uncertain terms not to put weight through the arm for 8 weeks to allow everything to settle down. Wasn't allowed to even grip the handlebars on the bike or use my arm to push myself out of the chair.

This week I'm up to 1hr on the bike outside and managed 1km in the pool so things are coming on.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and my knee reconstruction was years ago. Having re-read my post it sounds like i've had it done at the same time as the shoulder!
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