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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go Zwifties ....

https://www.tri247.com/triathlon-news/industry/british-triathlon-partners-zwift
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttowel wrote:
Not sure it makes much difference.

Imagic was immersive as it was the original smart trainer with gradient/resistance changes, but without being smart, ie estimated power, no ant+ or bluetooth but cable controlled. I dont have that facility now, Zwift is just on a wattbike for a passive workout but have no intention of changing that.

Tried a couple of races but its nowhere near a level playing field as paced can just change unrealistically.

That said, it has made me enjoy riding a bit more than I would normally at this time of year


Ive got a Neo so works better but I do enjoy the tacx videos from old as well, although the software is a bit flaky at times. They now have a new platform with a subscription service also (the old software still works but is unsupported now)

for free could try something like RGT (whilst still in beta) much better graphically as it uses the UNITY game engine but less "social" interaction. Virtugo is similar as also built on Unity but is meant to be more "training" based as its set up by michael rogers. Ive not used it too much as its all very samey and only so many sessions in a week!. I still like my old sufferfests though over most of this as its proper hurtbox stuff with a story.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone checked on Coach Troy recently? He must be feeling the pinch now that "everyone" has gone to Zwift Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is everyone not moving to 'Peloton'?

...and saddle...well done guys, you smashed it!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Why is everyone not moving to 'Peloton'?

...and saddle...well done guys, you smashed it!


the physios are rubbing their hands with glee...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Why is everyone not moving to 'Peloton'?

...and saddle...well done guys, you smashed it!


the physios are rubbing their hands with glee...


It's OK, I'm sure most of the people who shell out £2,000 for the bike and whatever the monthly subscription is for the classes will only use it a couple of times and then they'll lose interest Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whisk wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Why is everyone not moving to 'Peloton'?

...and saddle...well done guys, you smashed it!


the physios are rubbing their hands with glee...


It's OK, I'm sure most of the people who shell out £2,000 for the bike and whatever the monthly subscription is for the classes will only use it a couple of times and then they'll lose interest Wink


this is true...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_exile wrote:
I'm interested in this too. I am in the process of getting a new trainer - and I am torn between a turbo or rollers.

If I go for rollers and do not have a power meter can I still use Zwift? How does the lack of a compatible trainer or power meter effect the experience? I have a speed/cadence sensor and Ant+ dongle.


Zwift will calculate the power for you - they have power curve data for most trainers on the market and use this to estimate your power based on your speed. I heard that it is reasonably accurate.

see link to article

https://zwiftinsider.com/virtual-power/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Why is everyone not moving to 'Peloton'?

...and saddle...well done guys, you smashed it!


Just saw and advert for Peloton in my FB feed... why are they all moving their upper bodies so much? surely the point about riding efficiently is to keep your upper body stable and not waste energy, or increase aerodynamic drag, if riding outside
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Why is everyone not moving to 'Peloton'?

...and saddle...well done guys, you smashed it!


Just saw and advert for Peloton in my FB feed... why are they all moving their upper bodies so much? surely the point about riding efficiently is to keep your upper body stable and not waste energy, or increase aerodynamic drag, if riding outside


Although I’ve never been to a spin class myself, from what friends have told me I’m not sure they are always that ‘cycling’ focussed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsurf wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Why is everyone not moving to 'Peloton'?

...and saddle...well done guys, you smashed it!


Just saw and advert for Peloton in my FB feed... why are they all moving their upper bodies so much? surely the point about riding efficiently is to keep your upper body stable and not waste energy, or increase aerodynamic drag, if riding outside


because otherwise you don't feel as though you've had a full on sess
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheezy wrote:
Although I’ve never been to a spin class myself, from what friends have told me I’m not sure they are always that ‘cycling’ focussed.


Singles nights for people who don't like their partners too chubby?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've signed up for a trial account in the hope it encourages me to do more cycling, but I am enjoying my running ATM.

Will be using the standard turbo and PM for now. I lent someone my wattbike and CBA to get it back.

Just need my Wi-Fi booster tomorrow to get a signal in the garage.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The concept of zwift will always just be a training tool, the imagic for racing was at least calibrated and standardised.

I've done about 7 rides now, a few races and ride around 4.5 w/kg as solid training efforts but always end up 7 mins plus down on riders putting out less than 3w/kg over 20 miles so don't quite get how it works yet.

Unless they have a bike upgrade that doubles your power, I'm a bit lost.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffB wrote:

Just need my Wi-Fi booster tomorrow to get a signal in the garage.


I ended-up just using a powerline adaptor, as our walls are thick stone; I run a network cable from the garage socket to the laptop for added reliability. If I used a wireless adaptor in the garage I guess I could use the Companion app on my phone too, but I don't really need to be on my phone all the time! (generally the powerline kits will come with network cable adaptors as std, not wifi)

I tried using a wifi booster in our previous house which had thin modern walls, and the garage was about 15m from the router, and it really struggled. I would go powerline, if the garage is on the ring-main.
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