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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about this. A nameless athlete in a nameless race had a trio of naughtiness. Took nutrition hand-ups from a moving car on the bike, was paced for much of the run, and the one the refs didn't see was drafting a friend of mine who was out training on a section of the course apparently. DQ'd obv.


Planned, obvious rule breaking...why would anyone do that?


Why not just do the event the day before on your own and save yourself a few
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buzz_ wrote:
Tin Pot wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
What about this. A nameless athlete in a nameless race had a trio of naughtiness. Took nutrition hand-ups from a moving car on the bike, was paced for much of the run, and the one the refs didn't see was drafting a friend of mine who was out training on a section of the course apparently. DQ'd obv.


Planned, obvious rule breaking...why would anyone do that?


Why not just do the event the day before on your own and save yourself a few


No kudos in that I guess.

Wouldn't take much detective work if you look at my posting in Events.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Buzz_ wrote:
Tin Pot wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
What about this. A nameless athlete in a nameless race had a trio of naughtiness. Took nutrition hand-ups from a moving car on the bike, was paced for much of the run, and the one the refs didn't see was drafting a friend of mine who was out training on a section of the course apparently. DQ'd obv.


Planned, obvious rule breaking...why would anyone do that?


Why not just do the event the day before on your own and save yourself a few


No kudos in that I guess.

Wouldn't take much detective work if you look at my posting in Events.


just had a look. Steve Yates eh?? and if he hadn't have been so blatant at cheating then he would have placed 2nd. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat buddha wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Buzz_ wrote:
Tin Pot wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
What about this. A nameless athlete in a nameless race had a trio of naughtiness. Took nutrition hand-ups from a moving car on the bike, was paced for much of the run, and the one the refs didn't see was drafting a friend of mine who was out training on a section of the course apparently. DQ'd obv.


Planned, obvious rule breaking...why would anyone do that?


Why not just do the event the day before on your own and save yourself a few


No kudos in that I guess.

Wouldn't take much detective work if you look at my posting in Events.


just had a look. Steve Yates eh?? and if he hadn't have been so blatant at cheating then he would have placed 2nd. Rolling Eyes


And if Jorg's mate had seen a fiver on the floor and braked suddenly to collect it.... might have removed the issue altogether.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ His mate is even in the race photos on the run Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged


Maybe he'd got a DSQ for it anyway? Unrectifiable after warning?

More than the 4 inches or whatever is allowed?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SwimsLikeAWalrus wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged


Maybe he'd got a DSQ for it anyway? Unrectifiable after warning?

More than the 4 inches or whatever is allowed?


He's still on the results

Much more than us allowed Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged


Rule 2.8.c.v applies:-

(v) Where a two-piece uniform is used, the space between the top and the bottom may be not visible, so the two
pieces overlap. The competitor must cover their torso during the entire race with the exception of the swim
section; this includes front zips being completely fastened during the cycle and run segments.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy G wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged


Rule 2.8.c.v applies:-

(v) Where a two-piece uniform is used, the space between the top and the bottom may be not visible, so the two
pieces overlap. The competitor must cover their torso during the entire race with the exception of the swim
section; this includes front zips being completely fastened during the cycle and run segments.


yep, the point being that the rule is ineffectively applied...

...and is a rule for administrators rather than athletes...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Andy G wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged


Rule 2.8.c.v applies:-

(v) Where a two-piece uniform is used, the space between the top and the bottom may be not visible, so the two
pieces overlap. The competitor must cover their torso during the entire race with the exception of the swim
section; this includes front zips being completely fastened during the cycle and run segments.


yep, the point being that the rule is ineffectively applied...

...and is a rule for administrators rather than athletes...


Given that the torso is the trunk and doesn't just apply to the front then doesn't it also mean that any top with a zip at the back must also be done up?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zl wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Andy G wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged


Rule 2.8.c.v applies:-

(v) Where a two-piece uniform is used, the space between the top and the bottom may be not visible, so the two
pieces overlap. The competitor must cover their torso during the entire race with the exception of the swim
section; this includes front zips being completely fastened during the cycle and run segments.


yep, the point being that the rule is ineffectively applied...

...and is a rule for administrators rather than athletes...


Given that the torso is the trunk and doesn't just apply to the front then doesn't it also mean that any top with a zip at the back must also be done up?


It is, but despite making suggestions about silly rules for several years, the rule makers don't tend to listen...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
zl wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Andy G wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Got told to zip up today going through T2....zip was maybe 2 or 3 inches down but enough for the grey hair to be showing....meanwhile a guy wearing a crop top, in fact, less crop, more bra, runs through unchallenged


Rule 2.8.c.v applies:-

(v) Where a two-piece uniform is used, the space between the top and the bottom may be not visible, so the two
pieces overlap. The competitor must cover their torso during the entire race with the exception of the swim
section; this includes front zips being completely fastened during the cycle and run segments.


yep, the point being that the rule is ineffectively applied...

...and is a rule for administrators rather than athletes...


Given that the torso is the trunk and doesn't just apply to the front then doesn't it also mean that any top with a zip at the back must also be done up?


It is, but despite making suggestions about silly rules for several years, the rule makers don't tend to listen...


And clearly made by men. Women wearing a 2 piece, unless they have no boobs, find it impossible to keep the top down below the shorts.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at a local OW Sprint last week, and was wearing my sleeved Castelli Sanremo suit. The Ref told me that technically, sleeved suits were not permitted under wetsuits any more; and at 'bigger' BTF events (Champs etc) the rule would be enforced. He agreed it was a silly rule.

Is this true? (ffs)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
I was at a local OW Sprint last week, and was wearing my sleeved Castelli Sanremo suit. The Ref told me that technically, sleeved suits were not permitted under wetsuits any more; and at 'bigger' BTF events (Champs etc) the rule would be enforced. He agreed it was a silly rule.

Is this true? (ffs)


i thought that one had been and gone? i can't keep up...in the races and the rules....
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