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JeffB




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
LOL, I did a heatwave Frankfurt in 2010. My first ever IM; non wetsuit swim and a 36 deg run.

Think the more recent Frankfurt was even worse, though wasn;t last year cold/wet?

Barcelona on the rain., that's unlucky,,,,


Frankfurt last year was quite cool\cloudy, rained towards the end of the bike and a bit on the run, also quite breezy at times as well.

The problem was it had been quite warm for a few days before so the water was only wetsuits permitted for A\G's, pro's had to do without, but because the airtemp was only about 18 quite a few got hypothermia.

I've done Barca 3 times, poured down on the bike the 1st, had to stop for a couple of minutes because I couldn't see and the puddles were ankle deep. Three years ago it was delayed by about an hour due to a whopping thunder storm that came over before the start. Luckily it stayed dry after that but a lot of the run was a bit sloppy.

I did Maastricht in it's first year, that was a 30+ heatwave, but I wouldn't fancy the cobbles if it was wet.

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Murph333




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as its not raining I will be happy.

The last years IM and only one was 4-6C and pouring rain, that was not fun. I can deal with the cold just no rain please.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People weather watching/praying in March Laughing

Get out there and train in all sorts of sh!te weather then what will be will be, you won't care and you'll be faster than loads of the people that do.

If it's any consolation, I'm racing Bolton this year and I've never done a triathlon in bad weather. Not all been glorious days but never a truly shocking day.
I'm a good luck charm Smile

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daetho




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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything more than a light drizzle will be frustrating!

Training going okay but need to get some bigger rides on the TT now the weather is getting better. This is my first year riding TT (and aero bars) and so need to feel confident on it. Also need to decide whether to go with Tubs or Clinchers, and if Tubs whether to glue or tape.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
Nuts to that! I'd like a hot one, just for a change.

Last one I did it rained from the moment I got up at 3:30 am, to about an hour into the bike. Was steady rain, except it went beserk for the second lap of the swim - couldn't see the next buoy due to the droplets smashing off the lake surface.

Floodwater was gushing into the change tent, rain was so hard you couldn't hear the usual T1 noise due to the drumming on the tent. There were floods across the road coming out of Leigh, felt like doing that thing you did as a kid where you'd ride into a giant puddle then lift your feet up as you crossed it...

Once the rain stopped, a raw, cold wind set in. Think that max temp reached over the day was 12 deg. Top of Sheephouse was like Mordor.

Think I had a hissy fit at one point and vowed never to race in the UK again;-). Of the 6 Iron distance races I have done in the UK, 5 have been in nasty weather of some sort - rain, wind, cold or all of the above. But this was by far the worst; my wife has barely forgiven me for the soaking she got watching the swim....

Having written that, and enjoyed lovely conditions IM Barcelona last year I';m now wondering what the $%^k I am doing going back......Wink


i remember this one as it was the last one i did in the UK!

as you said the rain was so hard on the 2nd lap of the swim you couldn't see where to go because of the rain splashing on the surface.

i remember going into T1 inside the marquee and as i went in a marshall said welcome to the sauna and it was: there was so much steam inside you couldn't see from 1 end to the other.

flooded roads to start with and then the wind got up on the bike: probably the worst conditions i've biked 112m.

the run was good though!

typical summer weather really for the UK.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you doing this for the first time and haven't got these, Epic are doing two recce days, well worth it if only to see the bike course.

https://www.theendurancestore.com/pages/training-events?mc_cid=996050a06f&mc_eid=a6cd7e90f2

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But obscure, but does anyone know the distances into the course each hill is?

I have some long 4/5hr turbo sessions and want to split them up by simulating the hill climbing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin Pot wrote:
But obscure, but does anyone know the distances into the course each hill is?

I have some long 4/5hr turbo sessions and want to split them up by simulating the hill climbing.


https://www.bikemap.net/en/route/2492860-ironman-uk-2014-bike-course/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PCP wrote:
Tin Pot wrote:
But obscure, but does anyone know the distances into the course each hill is?

I have some long 4/5hr turbo sessions and want to split them up by simulating the hill climbing.


https://www.bikemap.net/en/route/2492860-ironman-uk-2014-bike-course/


I think the course has hanged since then, but I found another on velo iewer. If anyone cares, the main ascents are roughly at:

10km
30km
75km
100km
150km
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tin Pot wrote:
PCP wrote:
Tin Pot wrote:
But obscure, but does anyone know the distances into the course each hill is?

I have some long 4/5hr turbo sessions and want to split them up by simulating the hill climbing.


https://www.bikemap.net/en/route/2492860-ironman-uk-2014-bike-course/


I think the course has hanged since then, but I found another on velo iewer. If anyone cares, the main ascents are roughly at:

10km
30km
75km
100km
150km


It's the right outline of the new course but somehow is point to point as the crow flies.
They changed the course for 2014, in 2013 it was 3 loops with 3 ascents of Sheephouse and none of Hunters.

Also there is no ascent at 10km. It is uphill but there is no climb till you get to SHL.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, Sheephouse is a longer climb but not that steep, has a few little digs at the start and mid-way so you need to be in the right gear at the bottom.

The descent is quite fast with a couple of twists so be careful, and especially in the town at the end where there is a sharp left hander, but this is generally well signed and marshalled.

The other climb (forgotten it's name!) is a bit sharper, again, with the right gearing you shouldn't need to grind it much but on the second lap it can sting a bit.

There's a few other little digs though, so get used to climbing, it's not that far off Wales overall.

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Tin Pot




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffB wrote:
FWIW, Sheephouse is a longer climb but not that steep, has a few little digs at the start and mid-way so you need to be in the right gear at the bottom.

The descent is quite fast with a couple of twists so be careful, and especially in the town at the end where there is a sharp left hander, but this is generally well signed and marshalled.

The other climb (forgotten it's name!) is a bit sharper, again, with the right gearing you shouldn't need to grind it much but on the second lap it can sting a bit.

There's a few other little digs though, so get used to climbing, it's not that far off Wales overall.

Jeff


Yeah I bombed it past a load of people on the descents Smile The left hander at the end is annoying with the momentum my bulk is carrying Sad

I was grinding in lowest gear on each Hill in an attempt to be efficient but I'm wondering about the effectiveness of that. Maybe powering up out of the seat would save on suffering...then coast the downhills instead of trying to achieve escape velocity.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just deciding on what aero wheels to use. Assuming it's not too windy I was thinking depth between 40 and 60mm. What's everyone else using?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enve 8.9 front and rear

(but bringing a Zipp 404 front in case it's windy)

11-28 cassette for max spinning uphill
55 front ring to boot it on the fast bits

Really worth a ride of the main loop (done twice on the day) if you can get there to get a feel, if you haven't done the race before.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have any problem with 80s last year, will use again with 35 as an alternative in the front if windy.
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