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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but your early practices are a bit like those doing the three cup shuffle before laying bets...
Ejc, what was your first run like? Did you not have to learn to walk first. And to crawl before that? And just to stand up unsupported before that? Of course my early practices were rubbish, one of my first was the famous missing us military flight over the Bermuda Triangle, all I got was something over water. Which incidentally was correct.

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you miss the point...again...i related your early experience to the cup shuffle...I suppose that the modern equivalent is online casino or poker...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You do know that you're living in a fantasy world of your own creation, right?

I mean, I like a good laugh at your threads every few months, but I am also genuinely concerned for your wellbeing - Are you eating with others when you sit down for dinner? Do you socialise much in the local community, face to face, as it were?

You're obviously a nice chap, anyway.
gee thanks tin pot, at least I make people laugh. At me I give you!

I have considered it..but then I look at the data and the results, yes and yes by the way. If you call Oxford University, the gym, folk down town etc, much.

Seriously Tin Pot we have esoteric societies that some establishment folk are ranking in that study academically Hermetics etc. It's not as loopy as it sounds once you do it.

I myself once thought it daft, then I decided to give it a go, it works (should add that it took about a decade for me to go from first hearing about it and thinking it nonsense, to returning to it and finding that it then made sense to me).. Getting it to work reliably and usefully are challenges I give you. But I have had similar discussions in certain Masonic environments with people who understand esoterics better than me. (Knowing yourself is the key, but there are other links as well)

I just get a little excited when I make breakthroughs of things that people say are impossible. I have had a few.

That said I could just be as mad as a hatter, suffering from some undiagnosed mental illness I give you. It's certainly possible.

Perhaps I should just publish how to find subs step by step in a book, at least that would sell and I would make a little money! Remote viewing books do sell btw. At least mine do. And they are mainly just lists of session results.


Well as long as you're ok.

You're smart enough to apply scientific method to your investigations, and reject logical fallacies in your reasoning, I don't think you really need me to point them out.

Have a happy Christmas!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Paul L thank you for taking the time to help me, I will reflect upon your words.

My apologies for erring to answer your question, here is the answer you seek:

One of the target setters on a remote viewing forum (I no longer accept random targets from unknown people as I now realise that they could be anyone and hence a bit stupid). The series of numbers is all that you get when viewing a target. No more and no less. (Unless you are frontloading training but that is a separate kettle of fish). From those numbers you have to get information about the target. I do not know the precise answer to your third question, beyond what I have already posted about it, but I think that it was location.

Paul, I write this respectfully, but you appear to be making the same error Ejc made months ago, in your disbelief you are reading over and not taking in my explanations. I give you that could be my fault for not being clear, and I will reflect upon that. Equally many people struggle to take the matter seriously and it could be that your beliefs are obscuring my words a little, it is easy to do when reading challenging material. I am not saying that you are, just that people do when confronted with such matierial. You are however corrrect that clarity is vital, and I do my best. It may not be good enough, but it is my best.

All

All I did was ask for a bit of help, using an example to explain why. Seems to be to be a bit sad that people here would rather rip the pi@@ and go on the attack, when all you were asking for is a bit of help and guidance.

Be objective, be sceptical, but don't be blinded by what does work, when you work past the false claims in the viewing community, and the disbelief of those coming to it for the first time. It really does work (especially if you are looking for easy stuff, like feeling salt (assuming you have an aptitude for salt, different viewers different skill bases), over the difficult stuff, e.g. Naming something. Which by the way is not something that viewers should ever do, for when you start naming you imagination starts to take over).


not sure that "reading over and not taking in" is a fair description...i gave the evidence provided some consideration but saw nothing that would substantiate taking further interest at this stage. I remain open to viewing more (remotely or otherwise Smile ), but, at this stage, it is not so much that the jury is still out, more that you have leave to appeal if you wish..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gus wrote:
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That all said Gus you could well be right.


Oh God, I hope not Wink

I love esoteric thinking and do believe, somewhere, there is 'something'. The perpetual question is, what? So, allow me to take the topic in a different direction...

I love the recent 'matrix' philosophising - ie are we living in a VR 'matrix' as per the film?

Through my own process of logic, our technological advancement from living in mud huts through to the internet and the latest technologies (quantum computing etc.) has happened in a very, very small period of time. Firstly in relation to how long homo sapiens has existed and, secondly, the age of the universe. Knowledge growth has been exponential and continues to be so. Extrapolate forwards and what will we have in, say, 200 years? or 2000 years? or even 20,000 years? All, relatively speaking, the blink of an eye.

Only 40 years ago we were playing that basic 'tennis' game. Now our VR games are 3D and near-photo realistic. Fast forward 2000 years? ie. it's perfectly possible our consciences are living in a VR simulation and we don't even realise it.

Correlate this, also, to the size of our known universe. Somewhere out there I have absolutely no doubt there are others who may have been where we are at now, maybe 1,000,000 years ago. So what could they now be capable of? Are we living in 'their' matrix? Again logically it could well be the case. [We spend our lives trying to find signs of alien technology, but this is based on searching for evidence of technology that in our timeline has existed for a mere blink (eg, radio waves). What are the chances any other civilisation, right now, is at this (potentially) very, very early technological stage that lasts maybe one trillionth of a percent of a civilisation's existence? Chances are they are millions of years ahead (or behind) us. This might explain why we still have no real evidence of anyone 'out there'.]

I think the Tesla man, recently, said there is a 90% chance we are living in a 'matrix' and I believe him.

So, Sloggers, why not turn your mind powers to working out some sort of 'evidence' that could help break out of the matrix or at least prove it's existence?

Wink

And edited to just add: this assumes other human-type organisms out there with human-type brains. In the way an ant is physically incapable of understanding the internet, we may be physically incapable of understanding what really is out there...


It is interesting. Firstly we do live in at least one matrix, our perception is only via a model of reality created in our own minds interpreting the various stimuli we are able to sense. (As an aside, a delay of upto 0.5 secs can be measured, which has many implications).

If we exist within a second matrix, the holographic universe postulated, then that too is interesting but only a bit. Once we "wake up" we still have the same problem, is it the real universe or a Pratchett might say, is it "Turtles forever?".

So interesting, but not ultimately satisfying.

And I believe the studies into this concluded recently that there was no evidence of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ejc

That was some ream of responses!

This thread wasn't even suppose to be about viewing, I only gave the sub finding as an example.

But hey ho.

Look Ejc, I have nothing to prove to you, so why don't we just part from this. It was nice that you took an interest in what I do. I have been working on practical esoterics for a very long time now, and no doubt will continue to do so for a long time to follow.

With a bit of luck one of the geeks in GCHQ will get their mind around it and give what I detailed a (fair and proper) go. They could prove it in an afternoon if they so chose, and then they could keep tabs on almost every submarine in the world. I hope that they do.

For me I have further applications to refine. But fear not I won't mention them here.

Apologies now to anyone who I have inadvertently upset.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9 pages
Really?

It's clearly the season of good will
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SS, I'm a simple soul, so can you explain what the absolute f@ck your on about?
Simply?


you jumped up country boy...


SS explained that it's was about "hot" women. Who am I to stand in the way of the human condition?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TransitionTed wrote:
SS, I'm a simple soul, so can you explain what the absolute f@ck your on about?
Simply?


you jumped up country boy...


SS explained that it's was about "hot" women. Who am I to stand in the way of the human condition?


He lost me there....but I am willing to go out and do some research...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
TransitionTed wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
TransitionTed wrote:
SS, I'm a simple soul, so can you explain what the absolute f@ck your on about?
Simply?


you jumped up country boy...


SS explained that it's was about "hot" women. Who am I to stand in the way of the human condition?


He lost me there....but I am willing to go out and do some research...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TransitionTed wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
TransitionTed wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
TransitionTed wrote:
SS, I'm a simple soul, so can you explain what the absolute f@ck your on about?
Simply?


you jumped up country boy...


SS explained that it's was about "hot" women. Who am I to stand in the way of the human condition?


He lost me there....but I am willing to go out and do some research...

Perv
And you an educator too


Follow the data...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
TransitionTed wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
TransitionTed wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
TransitionTed wrote:
SS, I'm a simple soul, so can you explain what the absolute f@ck your on about?
Simply?


you jumped up country boy...


SS explained that it's was about "hot" women. Who am I to stand in the way of the human condition?


He lost me there....but I am willing to go out and do some research...

Perv
And you an educator too


Follow the data...
best thing to do. As long as you view it in proper context.

Re women, or men if that is your thing, without wanting to descend into the darkness of Crowley, sex being base level, is a very good way for anyone to get an insight into esoterics in their own life. Once you, pun intended, feel the energy re sex, you can refine that to buildings you feel at ease and unease in all the way up to artwork and your daily life (to situations being discussed on another thread of the multitude of factors that prevent people doing the right thing). The key is knowing yourself and being able to feel energy.

Anyhow to keep TT happy, let's get back to hot women.

It doesn't matters how skilled or unskilled you are, nor how comfortable nor uncomfortable you are with your own body, how confident or nervous you are, or how well or poorly constructed you are for the purpose. How often you get it or not. All of these things can be used to feel the energies involved with seeing the energies in people and in sex. If you look and listen closely enough (behave now).


Refine that through every aspect of your life until you truly know yourself better and feeling energy becomes second nature. Interpreting it correctly then becomes the challenge (a bit like does she fancy me or not at its base level).

Whatever problems you face in life, look for the energy flows, in a similar way to the old adage follow the money. It's just much much harder.

I really am done on this thread, but I hope that this helps Ejc "get" what I was saying on his recent irony thread in context of what he was discussing here. It's all energy structures, whether organisational, interpersonal, governmental, social.

Pick any leader you like, look at how he does things (how he or she applies his or her energy) and look at how people respond to it at work and through to their home life.

At governmental level such energy flows can start or stop wars, can fracture or heal nations, can enable the people to get more out of life or to fracture.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyhow to keep TT happy, let's get back to hot women.

It doesn't matters how skilled or unskilled you are, nor how comfortable nor uncomfortable you are with your own body, how confident or nervous you are, or how well or poorly constructed you are for the purpose. How often you get it or not. All of these things can be used to feel the energies involved with seeing the energies in people and in sex. If you look and listen closely enough (behave now).


Refine that through every aspect of your life until you truly know yourself better and feeling energy becomes second nature. Interpreting it correctly then becomes the challenge (a bit like does she fancy me or not at its base level).

Whatever problems you face in life, look for the energy flows, in a similar way to the old adage follow the money. It's just much much harder.

I think what you're saying, in a roundabout way, is that a good shag makes you feel at peace with the world Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cobbie wrote:
SloggingScotsman wrote:

Anyhow to keep TT happy, let's get back to hot women.

It doesn't matters how skilled or unskilled you are, nor how comfortable nor uncomfortable you are with your own body, how confident or nervous you are, or how well or poorly constructed you are for the purpose. How often you get it or not. All of these things can be used to feel the energies involved with seeing the energies in people and in sex. If you look and listen closely enough (behave now).


Refine that through every aspect of your life until you truly know yourself better and feeling energy becomes second nature. Interpreting it correctly then becomes the challenge (a bit like does she fancy me or not at its base level).

Whatever problems you face in life, look for the energy flows, in a similar way to the old adage follow the money. It's just much much harder.

I think what you're saying, in a roundabout way, is that a good shag makes you feel at peace with the world Smile


And with that revelation, my whole world has been turned upside down.

There is no "energy" involved. You see an attractive potential mate, your body releases some hormones, your pupils dilate, the focus of blood flow moves from the brain or whatever other useless activity it was being used for to your genitals, and you start preening for their attention.

If that feels like having energy it's because of the biolological functions activated when you're trying to impress, not because some magical power is involved.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

I really don't want to get drawn back in, but for clarity:-

1. Who said anything about magical power? Not me. It is a process of feeling energy (though many viewers would dispute that vigorously) that I have identified over a period of decades.

2. I used the sex example as it is easy for people to relate to. Tin Pot please go back and reread my words and hopefully you will see that I explained that was a starting point to get people to think about it, and then you develop through feeeling at ease or otherwise in buildings, how one bit of artwork grabs you while you walk past another etc and onwards until you can really feel the granularity of it all.

Do you really think Tin Pot that I hadn't considered your explanation, which is obviously accurate. But to get people to think about the benefits of esoterics that we are missing out on, you have to start somewhere, and beauty and sex is something 99% of people can relate to.

Now don't get me started on love...


THERE IS NOTHING MAGICAL ABOUT IT. IT IS JUST USING YOUR MIND AND BODY IN A WAY THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVENT TRIED NOR CONSIDERED, BUT WHICH AS OTHERS HAVE SAID HUMANS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR MILLENIA. I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE HAD A SMALL MEASURE OF SUCCESS AT IT. BUT THERE IS NOTHING MAGICAL ABOUT IT. YOU CAN RECORD IT, PERCEPTION BY PERCEPTION. YOU CAN DATABASE IT. YOU CAN AUDIT IT. YOU CAN EVEN GIVE IT A GO YOURSELF IF YOU ARE WILLING TO INVEST A FEW HUNDRED HOURS INTO TRAINING YOURSELF. ITS NOT MAGIC.

Sorry for shouting, but it isn't magic, just an ability that many misunderstand and haven't learnt.
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Just to let you know that my framework for combining remote viewing with maths, big data and oceanography, to find submarines and missing aeroplanes is now available on kindle, and hopefully within a few days on iBooks. It's twenty odd pages long.

With a bit of luck it will help enable viewers to contribute more effectively in finding missing aeroplanes etc in the future.

I remain open to constructive criticism and professional scepticism. I opted for a chatty style as that is most suited to most people who are likely to buy it, but have tried to take on board any valid criticisms made pereviously.

The blurb:

From reading an Economist article that suggested that it is still a difficult problem to find submarines I offer a theoretical solution that could be effective, combining the skills of remote viewing with mathematics, big data and oceanography. Assuming that the inherent limitations with remote viewing can be overcome success could enable better the finding of specific submarines as well as a range of civilian applications, including assisting the effective location of missing aircraft in the oceans. Clearly finding submarines is not something that civilians should attempt, unless there is a good civilian commercial reason for doing so. This paper is simply illustrating a possible theoretical solution to a practical problem identified in the Economist newspaper.


What to do next? Hostage location? (There is already ex military declassified public domain matierial on how viewers have successfully come up with valuable intelligence on hostages in the past, and the US viewer (iirc an Army Officer) who achieved that is a big player in the viewing community, so behind the scenes I would imagine that is already fairly advanced). Got several options on where to go next, the question is where could I add value?

Anyhow just thought that I would let you know that the job is done, and thanks again to everyone who took the time to seriously try to help and guide me. It is appreciated.
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