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Roscoemck




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the pool for another practice of the drills. Much better last night, felt a lot easier. Repetition certainly helps!

Got a bit tired towards the end, form started to go out of the window.

All in all, felt positive afterwards. Looking forward to Saturday's lesson.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rd lesson today, maybe just me but didn't feel I made much progress. Still mainly doing kick drills, albeit without the kick board.

Realised I don't float too well!

Its my last lesson next week, so I'll be going it alone after that! To be fair, I've learned a lot so far and it's given me a good start. I wouldn't have known where to start.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So back in the pool tonight, had just under an hour of practice.

Does it get any easier? Will I ever get the hang of it?

Tonight felt rubbish, couldn't seem to get any of it to work. Was fine until I stopped using the kick board then I felt like I was constantly sinking.

Bilateral breathing? Oh dear god! Left is fine, right is shocking!

Was getting it towards the end, even managed a length at a time, without the kick board and without stopping. Left on a positive and now looking forward to next session, even though tonight was crap.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you start to swim just try floating. Like a kid doing star floats. Theres a good reason kids are taught to float before swimming. You need to swim to propel yourself forward. Many improver swimmers spend their entire time swimming to stop themselves drowning. Learn to float, find ways to get them legs up. engage the core. once you have a good body position in the foat, then start to propel yourself forward. Ian Thorpe did this every session!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hammerer wrote:
Before you start to swim just try floating. Like a kid doing star floats. Theres a good reason kids are taught to float before swimming. You need to swim to propel yourself forward. Many improver swimmers spend their entire time swimming to stop themselves drowning. Learn to float, find ways to get them legs up. engage the core. once you have a good body position in the foat, then start to propel yourself forward. Ian Thorpe did this every session!



Sound advice.
On my first lesson, the instructor had me doing this, for about 5 minutes, then moved. I don't float well, thinking about my legs sink.

I'll give this a go on my next practice tomorrow night.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the pool last night, working on my drills from the instructor. Really came together at the end and left feeling very positive.

Ok, I can only do a length freestyle, but that's a length more than I could 3 weeks ago and that was with my head always above the water. Progress!

Last lesson on Saturday then it's all practice practice practice! Will be taking it one step at a time and looking to improve every time.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roscoemck - have you got a local Masters group you could go to? Now you've had a few lessons and have a feel for the basics that might help develop fitness and technique (if the coach has that focus). I've been at it 10 years now and still am making improvements Smile albeit in all strokes.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SwimsLikeAWalrus wrote:
Roscoemck - have you got a local Masters group you could go to? Now you've had a few lessons and have a feel for the basics that might help develop fitness and technique (if the coach has that focus). I've been at it 10 years now and still am making improvements Smile albeit in all strokes.


Not sure about the Masters, I'll look into it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last lesson earlier on (for now!). Went really well, introduced arm drills at last. Found out I'm trying to take far too big a breath and I'm overthinking things.

Sounds like a lot going wrong but it's actually all coming together.

Instructor recommended I try a set of fins, they'll help me concentrate on my arm drills and breathing.

I'll keep going to the pool at least twice a week, see how I progress and if I think I need to, I'll book another block of lessons.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick update. At the pool again tonight, really enjoyed it, managed a full length, freestyle! Ok, I was still using the kick board, but this is progress compared to where I was 4 weeks ago.

Felt much more relaxed tonight. Really, enjoyed it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting reflections and feedback - please keep it up!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you do freestyle with a kickboard? Glad it's going well
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TriSam wrote:
How do you do freestyle with a kickboard? Glad it's going well


i asked that before...i assume just getting balance in the water...but there are better ways...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
TriSam wrote:
How do you do freestyle with a kickboard? Glad it's going well


i asked that before...i assume just getting balance in the water...but there are better ways...


With difficulty! Trying to keep my body square and not let my hands cross over.

Doesn't do much for the arm pulls. It's becoming a bit of a comfort blanket, so I'm going to ditch it soon. Issue is, without it, I feel I'm not near enough the surface and can start to overthink then panic. I've ordered a set of fins, instructor's suggestion, to assist with the kick, so that I can start fully concentrating on arms/stroke/breathing.

Sometimes doesn't feel like it sound like it when I'm posting, but I do genuinely feel I've made a lot of progress.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roscoemck wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
TriSam wrote:
How do you do freestyle with a kickboard? Glad it's going well


i asked that before...i assume just getting balance in the water...but there are better ways...


With difficulty! Trying to keep my body square and not let my hands cross over.

Doesn't do much for the arm pulls. It's becoming a bit of a comfort blanket, so I'm going to ditch it soon. Issue is, without it, I feel I'm not near enough the surface and can start to overthink then panic. I've ordered a set of fins, instructor's suggestion, to assist with the kick, so that I can start fully concentrating on arms/stroke/breathing.

Sometimes doesn't feel like it sound like it when I'm posting, but I do genuinely feel I've made a lot of progress.


so, in effect, you are doing a form of 'catch up' with a float...are you able to rotate doing this?
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