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Roscoemck




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:52 am    Post subject: Training? What training? Reply with quote

What a rubbish week! Monday, felt as if I had a cold coming on, son had been in bed all weekend loaded with it.

So, did it come to anything? Did it feck. So why have I only done 2 swim sessions this week and nothing else?! Totally lacked the motivation to go out for my pre work runs this week, missed a strength session at the gym on Tuesday as well.

Back to the gym tonight for a workout and usual rest day tomorrow.

Right back on it at the weekend!!! Getting my mojo back slowly but surely.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the back of my last post, I probably needed the rest!

My typical week looks like this:

Monday am Rest Pm swim
Tuesday am Run pm Strength
Wednesday am turbo pm swim
Thursday am Run pm strength
Friday Rest
Saturday am Bike or turbo followed by run pm swim or strength
Sunday bike or turbo pm sometimes strength

Do quite a bit of strength as only recently joined the gym and am enjoying it. Will cut this down soon and add another swim.

Typically this is 7.5 to 8.5 hours a week.

Not bad for a 49 year old! Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be more value in adding a turbo or two midweek?

Suspect there would be more gains there, than adding another swim to the 2/3 you already do.

FWIW I'm 50, I go with 5 bikes, 4 runs, 3 swims, 2 strength per normal week. That is a tough schedule though and I've built up to it over a number of years.

What are your aims/targets for the year?

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRO Saracen wrote:
Might be more value in adding a turbo or two midweek?

Suspect there would be more gains there, than adding another swim to the 2/3 you already do.

FWIW I'm 50, I go with 5 bikes, 4 runs, 3 swims, 2 strength per normal week. That is a tough schedule though and I've built up to it over a number of years.

What are your aims/targets for the year?

Good luck!


Main aim, my first Tri. A sprint in May this year.

Bit light on the bike just now, another month and I'll be able to get out early doors on the bike Saturday and Sunday. I'll look at getting more Turbo work done.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the groove!

A nice easy 4 mile run done in high winds and torrential rain. Feel great after that!

9.26mm pace, kept HR nice and steady. One thing I've noticed is that during the first mile of most runs, my heart rate climbs rapidly, today it peaked at 175! Weird! It then settles back down nicely to my usual around 140. It's always done it so it's nothing new.

No more training today, we're taking my mum out for the day.

Have a good one everybody.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roscoemck wrote:
9.26mm pace, kept HR nice and steady. One thing I've noticed is that during the first mile of most runs, my heart rate climbs rapidly, today it peaked at 175! Weird! It then settles back down nicely to my usual around 140. It's always done it so it's nothing new.


It's also a normal failure scenario of heart rate straps...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jibberjim wrote:
Roscoemck wrote:
9.26mm pace, kept HR nice and steady. One thing I've noticed is that during the first mile of most runs, my heart rate climbs rapidly, today it peaked at 175! Weird! It then settles back down nicely to my usual around 140. It's always done it so it's nothing new.


It's also a normal failure scenario of heart rate straps...


Really? Only seems to happen for first mile then settles to what I would consider normal.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roscoemck wrote:
jibberjim wrote:
Roscoemck wrote:
9.26mm pace, kept HR nice and steady. One thing I've noticed is that during the first mile of most runs, my heart rate climbs rapidly, today it peaked at 175! Weird! It then settles back down nicely to my usual around 140. It's always done it so it's nothing new.


It's also a normal failure scenario of heart rate straps...


Really? Only seems to happen for first mile then settles to what I would consider normal.


Yes, poor contact on HR straps tends to lead to over-reading exactly like this, as you then sweat, the contact improves and it settles. If you post a graph of the HR at the start, or via strava etc. we can probably say more specifically.

A tight compression top and/or some spit on the HR contacts will fix it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw 190 after 3 mins on the turbo today....?!

As Jim said its a HRM fault. Its not real.

The three ten min blocks at 168 average defiantly were.

It was shocking here too. Rose your a hero running in that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you do your 'strength' after your runs, what do you do and what is the objective?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Why do you do your 'strength' after your runs, what do you do and what is the objective?


I don't do them straight afterwards, usually run in the morning, strength at night.

Looking to build and maintain some upper body strength as well as core and leg strength.

I'm going for some all over conditioning. Generally go toothed gym with the wife, it's our thing.

Used to be very overweight and unhealthy, never going back to that.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roscoemck wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Why do you do your 'strength' after your runs, what do you do and what is the objective?


I don't do them straight afterwards, usually run in the morning, strength at night.

Looking to build and maintain some upper body strength as well as core and leg strength.

I'm going for some all over conditioning. Generally go toothed gym with the wife, it's our thing.

Used to be very overweight and unhealthy, never going back to that.


understood...i assume that there is still some fatigue in your legs..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
Roscoemck wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
Why do you do your 'strength' after your runs, what do you do and what is the objective?


I don't do them straight afterwards, usually run in the morning, strength at night.

Looking to build and maintain some upper body strength as well as core and leg strength.

I'm going for some all over conditioning. Generally go toothed gym with the wife, it's our thing.

Used to be very overweight and unhealthy, never going back to that.


understood...i assume that there is still some fatigue in your legs..


Usually a bit of fatigue in the legs. No run or turbo today as they were more than a tad fatigued!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swim practice tonight. Making progress, but very slowly! Can manage a length now freestyle, not sure the technique's great, but still doing it. Next goal, 1.5 then 2 lengths without stopping and increase from there.

Also doing some breaststroke towards the end of my session. Reason? May not have freestyle sorted enough to manage 750m at sprint tri in May.

I want to get this freestyle nailed and if takes 6 months, so be it!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roscoemck wrote:
Swim practice tonight. Making progress, but very slowly! Can manage a length now freestyle, not sure the technique's great, but still doing it. Next goal, 1.5 then 2 lengths without stopping and increase from there.

Also doing some breaststroke towards the end of my session. Reason? May not have freestyle sorted enough to manage 750m at sprint tri in May.

I want to get this freestyle nailed and if takes 6 months, so be it!


Swimming is a continuous process. There quickly comes a point where you become competent and swim fit. Becoming very competent is much more tricky! Gains become smaller! And most of us will never be brilliant!

Anyway so what if you do some breast stroke in the tri. It is not the end of the world! Is it in open water?
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