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daetho




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:26 pm    Post subject: Tri Cycling Shoes Recommedations Reply with quote

Looking for some new triathlon cycling shoes for standard and iron distance events.

Bought a pair of Bont Riot TR in a sale, but with my toes butted up to the top of the shoe I have a thumb width room at the back so just too big unfortunately. Also I think they are made for wider feet as the the strap goes quite far over the edge when tightened up. Shop I bought them from doesn't have size below.

On my road bike I use basic Shimano but after trying on the Bont Riots I'd really like to have some carbon sole.

What shoes do you currently use?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get on really well with Garneau Tri 400, but no idea how they compare with others - got a good deal on them 15 months ago, can't remember exactly where I got them
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Garneau Tri 400 and really like them. I had the Tri-lite before them but they were too wide for my foot, these are perfect.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bont shoes have always looked like pasties to me i.e. very wide. Never entertained them, as I have narrow feet. They also look like the upper/tongue is low on the top of your foot and could imagine them not holding your foot as well?

I had good results with Shimano over the years, my last ones were TR50, but the latest iteration is the TR9 iirc, nice if you like blue! These days, I use Northwave Tributes for Sprint/Oly and S-Works Road shoes for anything longer. The S-Works are lovely shoes, but they have 2 Boas and no heel loop, so not ideal for fast transitions.

The Mavic Cosmic Elite Tri looks good; carbon sole, not mega money. Bike shoes should last years anyway, so always worth the investment.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks - a few there for me to look into.

Seems the Garneau Tri 400 are not available anymore and the replacement are not stocked in my size. I tried on some in the shop but there was only about 3mm gap at the end so thinking I need half size up.

I would have gone for the Mavic Cosmic Elite Tri but they are plastic soles, it's the Ultimates that are carbon.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I guess the Elite Tri doesn't have a full carbon sole. Maybe look at the NW Tributes then.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Northwave Tributes, pretty stiff soled and nice and comfy Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.triathlete.com/2017/03/2017-buyers-guide/2017-triathlete-buyers-guide-cycling-shoes_299390

These prices seem very high but I'd agree with their opinions Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you actually need tri shoes, particularly if you're into the longer races and not sprints?

And are you at the pointy end or MOP/BOP? Using dedicated tri shoes may save a few seconds but Road specific shoes are simply better all round for the bike.

I used to have tri shoes but realised they offered me no benefits whatsoever, and I doubted if they were any quicker getting off and on as I would never have them set up on the pedals before a bike leg anyway.

I've been using Shimano R171 Road Shoes which are excellent and have a carbon sole: this is now an older model but still available for less than 100 in a few shops.

I also use the cheaper R088 which are very good too.

Can't really tell the benefits of the carbon sole between the two shoes but of course carbon is better because it's carbon.

Unless your a top performer, IMHO just get some road shoes.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonmonkey02 wrote:
Do you actually need tri shoes, particularly if you're into the longer races and not sprints?

And are you at the pointy end or MOP/BOP? Using dedicated tri shoes may save a few seconds but Road specific shoes are simply better all round for the bike.

I used to have tri shoes but realised they offered me no benefits whatsoever, and I doubted if they were any quicker getting off and on as I would never have them set up on the pedals before a bike leg anyway.

I've been using Shimano R171 Road Shoes which are excellent and have a carbon sole: this is now an older model but still available for less than 100 in a few shops.

I also use the cheaper R088 which are very good too.

Can't really tell the benefits of the carbon sole between the two shoes but of course carbon is better because it's carbon.

Unless your a top performer, IMHO just get some road shoes.


It's an interesting take, certainly, but personally I'd combine the advantage of a quality Tri shoe and a faster transition

Mavic Tri helium are to be found at bargain prices now and I've used mine for racing and training for 5 plus years.

Specialised make a fab road shoe and I like the double Boa but the fit is a bit too narrow.

My two old pairs of Shimano Tri shoes are affixed my turbo bike and single speed and both must be 10+ years old...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive used my Shimano TR50's for racing only and had them for 7 years now. They are a great shoe and Id probably stick with shimano when they finally fall apart, although that blue is maybe a bit too much on the TR9.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

explorerJC wrote:
moonmonkey02 wrote:
Do you actually need tri shoes, particularly if you're into the longer races and not sprints?

And are you at the pointy end or MOP/BOP? Using dedicated tri shoes may save a few seconds but Road specific shoes are simply better all round for the bike.

I used to have tri shoes but realised they offered me no benefits whatsoever, and I doubted if they were any quicker getting off and on as I would never have them set up on the pedals before a bike leg anyway.

I've been using Shimano R171 Road Shoes which are excellent and have a carbon sole: this is now an older model but still available for less than 100 in a few shops.

I also use the cheaper R088 which are very good too.

Can't really tell the benefits of the carbon sole between the two shoes but of course carbon is better because it's carbon.

Unless your a top performer, IMHO just get some road shoes.


It's an interesting take, certainly, but personally I'd combine the advantage of a quality Tri shoe and a faster transition

Mavic Tri helium are to be found at bargain prices now and I've used mine for racing and training for 5 plus years.

Specialised make a fab road shoe and I like the double Boa but the fit is a bit too narrow.

My two old pairs of Shimano Tri shoes are affixed my turbo bike and single speed and both must be 10+ years old...


I found for me tri shoes weren't necessary: a few seconds potentially saved is immaterial.

I can understand for some who are racing and want to be as quick as possible through T1 it can be important.

For your average age-grouper/weekend warrior tri specific shoes just don't offer any real advantages: if you use them you need to practice putting them on as you're pedaling down the road etc which isn't easy and i've seen numerous people doing this in a race, taking ages getting them done up, and usually wobbling all over the road. for most it's quicker putting on the shoes inside T1.

but I guess for some who are doing a triathlon they must buy some tri shoes because that's what you do.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonmonkey02 wrote:
Do you actually need tri shoes, particularly if you're into the longer races and not sprints?


Good point. I would actually use the bike for sprints up to Iron distance. On my everyday bike I use some Shimano R065 with SPD-SL cleats. They're not very efficient and I can feel the power drain using them. I'm fine with them for everyday use though and previous models got me through a number of olympic distance races.

I bought a 2nd hand P2 which came with speedplay pedals so my plan was to buy new shoes/cleats to match. I like the idea of Tri specific as that's what I'd be using the P2 for but going to have a look into some non-tri shoes as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonmonkey02 wrote:
explorerJC wrote:
moonmonkey02 wrote:
Do you actually need tri shoes, particularly if you're into the longer races and not sprints?

And are you at the pointy end or MOP/BOP? Using dedicated tri shoes may save a few seconds but Road specific shoes are simply better all round for the bike.

I used to have tri shoes but realised they offered me no benefits whatsoever, and I doubted if they were any quicker getting off and on as I would never have them set up on the pedals before a bike leg anyway.

I've been using Shimano R171 Road Shoes which are excellent and have a carbon sole: this is now an older model but still available for less than 100 in a few shops.

I also use the cheaper R088 which are very good too.

Can't really tell the benefits of the carbon sole between the two shoes but of course carbon is better because it's carbon.

Unless your a top performer, IMHO just get some road shoes.


It's an interesting take, certainly, but personally I'd combine the advantage of a quality Tri shoe and a faster transition

Mavic Tri helium are to be found at bargain prices now and I've used mine for racing and training for 5 plus years.

Specialised make a fab road shoe and I like the double Boa but the fit is a bit too narrow.

My two old pairs of Shimano Tri shoes are affixed my turbo bike and single speed and both must be 10+ years old...


I found for me tri shoes weren't necessary: a few seconds potentially saved is immaterial.

I can understand for some who are racing and want to be as quick as possible through T1 it can be important.

For your average age-grouper/weekend warrior tri specific shoes just don't offer any real advantages: if you use them you need to practice putting them on as you're pedaling down the road etc which isn't easy and i've seen numerous people doing this in a race, taking ages getting them done up, and usually wobbling all over the road. for most it's quicker putting on the shoes inside T1.

but I guess for some who are doing a triathlon they must buy some tri shoes because that's what you do.


I am amazed how little attention people pay to developing their skill in transition but I suppose it just makes racing easier for those that do
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimano TR50 are the only summer bike shoes I have ever owned, and I'm replacing them with TR9 now after 8? years. So I would ask, do you really need road shoes? I mostly race short distances, but I've done a few 100+ mile rides in the shoes with no comfort issues.

My winter bike takes spd pedals, so I have other shoes for muck and cold, although I've used overshoes with the TR50s when conditions dictate. Time will tell if I can pull off the blue TR9s on summer commutes or if I cave and get a more discrete pair of road shoes.

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