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Alistair Brownlee's road to the IM70.3 World Champs
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
What last Saturday shows, is that his St George win was not AB dialing it back on the run - he was actually fading badly compared to Sanders (who ran out of road imho). The 70.3 WC will be a different beast again though, as it's unlikely Brownlee will be hanging-off the front alone on the bike if the likes of Frodeno are there. The interesting question now, would be if AB could outrun Frodeno & Sanders on a good day.

This just makes it all the more interesting.


Disagree, he was on an off day and saving himself slightly for Leeds. TBH, he shouldn't have bothered racing it if he wanted to race Leeds for the win.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's 2017, and people can go on holiday to space....don't TV cameras have zoom lenses?


Yes, but the more you zoom in the less stable the picture becomes. Drones have to be the way forward though!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's 2017, and people can go on holiday to space....don't TV cameras have zoom lenses?


Yes, but the more you zoom in the less stable the picture becomes. Drones have to be the way forward though!


Or filming from behind...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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r0bh wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
It's 2017, and people can go on holiday to space....don't TV cameras have zoom lenses?


Yes, but the more you zoom in the less stable the picture becomes. Drones have to be the way forward though!


Or filming from behind...


Fine if the person you are filming is solo, doesn't work if they are at the front of a paceline (moto will then give draft to rider in second wheel)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

r0bh wrote:
jibberjim wrote:
r0bh wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
It's 2017, and people can go on holiday to space....don't TV cameras have zoom lenses?


Yes, but the more you zoom in the less stable the picture becomes. Drones have to be the way forward though!


Or filming from behind...


Fine if the person you are filming is solo, doesn't work if they are at the front of a paceline (moto will then give draft to rider in second wheel)


Well it would be a massively reduced draft in any case - (because they'll have to be offset rather than directly in front) and more importantly a fair race is more important than TV coverage.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree. On ST if Sanders isn't leading then everyone else is cheating in someway.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
It's 2017, and people can go on holiday to space....don't TV cameras have zoom lenses?


I think trying to film a triathlon from space is probably overkill just to negate the drag!

30meters should do it ???
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r0bh wrote:
......when AB was in 3rd it looked like he was too close to the 2nd rider. But the same was true when AB was in 1st; 3rd looked too close to 2nd.

I love AB but he was too certainly too close to the 2nd placed guy, the commentators were calling him on it too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jgav wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
What last Saturday shows, is that his St George win was not AB dialing it back on the run - he was actually fading badly compared to Sanders (who ran out of road imho). The 70.3 WC will be a different beast again though, as it's unlikely Brownlee will be hanging-off the front alone on the bike if the likes of Frodeno are there. The interesting question now, would be if AB could outrun Frodeno & Sanders on a good day.

This just makes it all the more interesting.


Disagree, he was on an off day and saving himself slightly for Leeds. TBH, he shouldn't have bothered racing it if he wanted to race Leeds for the win.


What about St George, you think he jogged that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about St George, you think he jogged that?


No, I think he won the race with a 30 second lead.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about St George, you think he jogged that?


No, I think he won the race with a 30 second lead.


A lead whittled down to 30 sec is not emphatic. All to play for.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorgan wrote:
Jgav wrote:
Jorgan wrote:


What about St George, you think he jogged that?


No, I think he won the race with a 30 second lead.


A lead whittled down to 30 sec is not emphatic. All to play for.


I think that's fair, we are both making assumptions so either could be right. What I really want to see is a decent head to head on the run to see where AB stacks up against the top long distance pros.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jgav wrote:
Jorgan wrote:
Jgav wrote:
Jorgan wrote:


What about St George, you think he jogged that?


No, I think he won the race with a 30 second lead.


A lead whittled down to 30 sec is not emphatic. All to play for.


I think that's fair, we are both making assumptions so either could be right. What I really want to see is a decent head to head on the run to see where AB stacks up against the top long distance pros.


This. 100%
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well watching Leeds was fun. Great to have decent TV coverage on the BBC. AB just seemed to put time in JB on the run without it seeming to hurt him nearly as much as JB was hurting to just hold position.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JB was "outrun" by Alarza, Bowden, Bishop AND Blummenfelt which just goes to show how hard the bike they rode was at the front.
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